Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

I'm not so sure about that, they are making it sound like it was a lovers' tiff (2 parties Nicola and her partner) and she left as a result.

I wonder if the police force is horribly biased?

Nicola could have had mental health issues and perhaps be on medication, and their relationship maybe have had issues such as regular arguments etc. So they assume she either committed suicide or left to disappear.

In all of this it's the police force that comes across very strange!

Surely they are effectively saying this is either an accident or suicide? Suicides are often referred to as 'unsuspicious'.

I think the police are thinking suicide whereas the family are not.

its always around this time that you get those on the job coming off their shift to patronise people

But the family need publicity and public pressure in order for them to put the pressure on. They simply can’t do it otherwise.

Third party is a normal term - think of your car and other insurance which covers you eg third party fire and theft; or third party only v comprehensive.

It simply means some other person.

I don't think Paul would be on Chamnel 5 if he wanted Joe Public to keep schtum.

Yes and usually the time I dip out for a bit !!

The mounted police are probably for public safety, there's people who will take the search into their own hands and that coastline/estuary is hardly safe.

Quite

Given that so many on Mumsnet don't even answer their front door there's no chance they'd let the police in to search their houses.

On a serious note, the police can't just go searching properties without a warrant and there has to be a reason for a warrant to be given. While I'd always be happy to assist the police I don't want to live in a country where they can demand to search your property if they choose.

and there is no evidence of an abduction.

Abduction will still be being considered, “keeping an open mind” means exactly that. But without evidence of a crime there cannot be a criminal enquiry. It will remain a missing person’s enquiry with the possibility of a crime being part of that, but it’s not a criminal enquiry.

That's a good point. Its dangerous around that area.

No it doesn't. It means there are 3 parties, in your insurance case, one insurance, second insurance and the client.

Yes I was thinking this, I’m menopausal, similar age to Nicola, I’m on ads due to the anxiety of being menopausal. I’m not struggling nor suicidal- but what would they think if I disappeared. I’m out of a violent marriage, not very wealthy, on anti depressants… would a police force make an assumption… feels a bit off to me

I don’t get posts like this. It’s far from clear she didn’t go into the water, it remains the most likely scenario. There’s no evidence of any kind of criminal element, but there is evidence -no matter how small- of her being near the river. Abduction is by far the least likely outcome here.

Why are you so keen for this to be some hideous crime? What’s wrong with you?

The family will always stick to the hope that she will walk back home, or be found alive. And like pointed out people can act normal in their daily routine then disappear sadly.

Assumption has led this investigation from the start.

What are you talking about??
People here just don't want a crime to go unsolved. While the police are focusing on the drowning theory, a person could literally be getting away with murder.
Nobody is 'keen' for her to have been murdered ffs, quite the opposite!

I agree.
Unless Nicola has taken off and informed the police but I doubt this very much. It has massive sexist under current the whole investigation and pathetic comms. Horrible.

I don’t think they mean that in this case. It’s a general term for another person being involved (other than the one in question who is missing).

1st party = your insurance company
2nd party = yourself
3rd party = the owner of the car you just hit

This is what i don't get, they have no evidence of anything at all, it seems highly unlikely, with such a very low tidal flow and all her clothing nothing has been found, not a thing... objects that wash in from the sea or out are usually floating on the surface, stuff under the water, gets caught up in fallen trees, mud banks, eddy's etc.
All this assumes she fell in below the weir, as the experts don't think she would have gone over the weir at low flows.

I don't see how they can say "missing person" any more than "criminal" investigation.

From what i ve seen of the Police on this, they aren't really open minded, they have said that they think she is in the River and are looking to prove their theory.

What difference would making it a criminal investigation actually make? It wouldn't make evidence suddenly appear, they've tracked down vehicles and contacted the owners, they've done door to door enquiries, checked any video they can get hold of. Realistically what would change?

Anyone who thinks this documentary is a positive thing is naive.

The media are practically salivating over this case. They will have gone to the family and sold it to them on the basis that they, channel5, and that odious dan Wooten at that, will tell their side of the story, to raise awareness. Etc etc etc, and meanwhile Channel5 will be rubbing their hands together that they have the exclusive.

This is the kind of documentary you’d expect a few years down the line, where people might ask what could have happened etc. It’s pure entertainment, and the family are being used as the puppets.

We saw them today when walking the dog on the beach, 2 lots of 2 riders/ horses. I assumed they were there to ensure there were no weirdos trying to get involved as I can’t imagine horses are much good at searching and the riders wouldn’t be able to search closely (or maybe they would as they have a higher vantage point?). There were no boats on the water but the tide was well out.