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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

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ofwarren · 09/02/2023 19:35

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

  1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

  1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

  1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

  1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

  1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

  1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

  1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

  1. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

  1. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

  1. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

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VanGoghsDog · 10/02/2023 15:57

When I'm on a Teams call my phone stays unlocked.

They said the phone was still connected to the Teams call, even though it had ended, then they said they could not unlock the phone. This is not consistent with my use of phones and Teams.

Shampern · 10/02/2023 16:05

placemats · 10/02/2023 12:57

So basically what is known that at approx 9.33am Willow the dog was found as was a phone. This information was passed on approximately 45 minutes later and then passed onto the school. The school rang Nicola's partner Paul who immediately alerted the police. I can understand why he did that.

Nicola left the house at 8.30am to take the children to school and also took the dog for a morning walk. If my partner hadn't returned sooner, I'd be worried and maybe texting, although if working from home might lose sight of the time.

It's a long time from her last sighting to when the police turned up and the lack of absence of other walkers in the area.

Do you mean he would be texting her to say where are you? I think my partner would be.
Did PA arrive together with the police at the scene?

Kerfuffler · 10/02/2023 16:06

You can lock a screen and still remain on a Teams call, I think.

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:18

It sounds like Paul Ansell isn't on message with the police www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11736761/Nicola-Bulleys-partner-says-people-dont-just-vanish-air.html

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:23

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:18

I think the idea that the police have some "undisclosed information" that they have shared with the family but not the public should be abandoned.

Goldpaw · 10/02/2023 16:24

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:18

When the family contacted Peter Faulding it suggested a discord.

augustusglupe · 10/02/2023 16:26

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:23

I think the idea that the police have some "undisclosed information" that they have shared with the family but not the public should be abandoned.

They may have information that they haven't publicly shared atall.

pigsinoodies · 10/02/2023 16:28

They contacted him because he was all over TV criticising the police and claiming that he could do it much better.

Who can blame them for contacting him?

confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:28

augustusglupe · 10/02/2023 16:26

They may have information that they haven't publicly shared atall.

i'd been leaning towards Nicola's state of mind as being the "secret" the police have told the family alone because the family had gone very quiet for the last week. This dispels this.

It could be that they have information that they haven't told the family and the public but it feels the family have no more clarity that the public

Rempf · 10/02/2023 16:28

The stance of the police points to them having this crucial information that leads them to be sticking so steadfastly to the drowning theory - it wouldn't seem they have found signs of an accidental entry as I think that would have been hard to keep under wraps- this adds weight to the "state of mind/suicide" theory.

This crucial information on her possible mindset could surely have only have come from PA- it would explain his apparent lack of appealing to her directly- his demeanour has a resignation to it that isnt apparent in her friends for example- its unlikely they would be privy to it. It would also potentially explain why SGI seemed to wrap things up quite abruptly

I must confess, and I know its been heavily debated on here already, but I would be of the opinion that suicide of this method, in such a location, whilst walking her beloved dog, having only just dropped her precious children off seems a stretch too far.

I guess no one can tell, but personally, I find walking my dog in a beautiful setting on a fresh morning quite helpful in lifting a bad/sad mood- the endorphins lift you involuntarily.

It all points back to something crucial leading the police down this avenue- a falling out/text/letter etc

As an aside-

NBs parents say they were babysitting the night before- assuming both PA and NB were out separately?

Tamarindtree · 10/02/2023 16:33

As horrible as it sounds, Paul’s interview will have to be scrutinised by the body language and voice experts to rule him out or not which will be for his benefit because it will help to stop the finger of suspicion being pointed at him.

pigsinoodies · 10/02/2023 16:38

Another picture of the weir - this time looking up from the 'tidal' side towards the bench.

Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6
confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:39

Rempf · 10/02/2023 16:28

The stance of the police points to them having this crucial information that leads them to be sticking so steadfastly to the drowning theory - it wouldn't seem they have found signs of an accidental entry as I think that would have been hard to keep under wraps- this adds weight to the "state of mind/suicide" theory.

This crucial information on her possible mindset could surely have only have come from PA- it would explain his apparent lack of appealing to her directly- his demeanour has a resignation to it that isnt apparent in her friends for example- its unlikely they would be privy to it. It would also potentially explain why SGI seemed to wrap things up quite abruptly

I must confess, and I know its been heavily debated on here already, but I would be of the opinion that suicide of this method, in such a location, whilst walking her beloved dog, having only just dropped her precious children off seems a stretch too far.

I guess no one can tell, but personally, I find walking my dog in a beautiful setting on a fresh morning quite helpful in lifting a bad/sad mood- the endorphins lift you involuntarily.

It all points back to something crucial leading the police down this avenue- a falling out/text/letter etc

As an aside-

NBs parents say they were babysitting the night before- assuming both PA and NB were out separately?

It would appear so. NB was out meeting her boss/colleague. She came back then said good bye to her parents which was the last time they saw her. I don't know about PA.

Bluekerfuffle · 10/02/2023 16:39

Rempf · 10/02/2023 16:28

The stance of the police points to them having this crucial information that leads them to be sticking so steadfastly to the drowning theory - it wouldn't seem they have found signs of an accidental entry as I think that would have been hard to keep under wraps- this adds weight to the "state of mind/suicide" theory.

This crucial information on her possible mindset could surely have only have come from PA- it would explain his apparent lack of appealing to her directly- his demeanour has a resignation to it that isnt apparent in her friends for example- its unlikely they would be privy to it. It would also potentially explain why SGI seemed to wrap things up quite abruptly

I must confess, and I know its been heavily debated on here already, but I would be of the opinion that suicide of this method, in such a location, whilst walking her beloved dog, having only just dropped her precious children off seems a stretch too far.

I guess no one can tell, but personally, I find walking my dog in a beautiful setting on a fresh morning quite helpful in lifting a bad/sad mood- the endorphins lift you involuntarily.

It all points back to something crucial leading the police down this avenue- a falling out/text/letter etc

As an aside-

NBs parents say they were babysitting the night before- assuming both PA and NB were out separately?

Her parents were baby sitting at her house, while she was there on a zoom call with a client. They then left.
The police also said there was no evidence of a slip but there wouldn’t be if someone had a sheer fall and went straight from the ground into the water rather than slipping down.
i imagine her partner is not appealing to her directly because he doesn’t believe she would have just gone off intentionally.

Baileysandcream · 10/02/2023 16:40

Tamarindtree · 10/02/2023 16:33

As horrible as it sounds, Paul’s interview will have to be scrutinised by the body language and voice experts to rule him out or not which will be for his benefit because it will help to stop the finger of suspicion being pointed at him.

Surely that's what the police do in their private interviews?

PA has already been hung, drawn and quartered on social media based on a few seconds of TV interview. As was his poor sister. There are already oodles of body language experts out there hosting youtube chats on his last short interview.

MaggieFS · 10/02/2023 16:41

Mirabai · 10/02/2023 14:43

To resolve some of the confusion on witnesses:

8.47 NB saw and interacted with a friend.
9.10 seen in field by fellow dog walker - male, aged 70, whose wife was the one who spoke to the press about it. Not clear if she was with her DH at the time.
9.20 according to mobile signal the phone was back in the vicinity of the bench.
9.33 woman, local business owner, found the ‘agitated’ dog loose which she tied up with string, found the phone and put it on the bench.

This was much confused by the fact that one of NB’s friends reported to press that the woman found the dog and another male found the phone on the ground 2 feet from the bench.

Sorry to be picky, but given it keeps being discussed in case it's of importance. According to the quote from the business owner in the Fail which was posted in this thread earlier today, she found the phone on the bench. She did not say she picked it up and put it on the bench.

As has been said, so much is woolly goodness only knows what actually happened. I'm

Allgoodthings1 · 10/02/2023 16:44

Two weeks on and it doesn’t look like they’re getting anywhere at all with this case 😩 Of course someone may have phoned in with a crucial piece of info and they just haven’t investigated it yet but it really does feel like it’s hit a brick wall. I can’t cope with the idea of just never knowing so I cannot imagine how her family will be feeling, especially her poor mum and dad 😢 I really feel and have since very early on that this is an abduction and Willow was by the gate because that’s where she’d gone or she had been put in that way by someone who had taken Nicola from the field. It’s infuriating that there’s absolutely no witness or evidence at all though 😔 I just want to scream for them and she’s not my relative. Sadly, unless something is found to suggest what actually happened her partner will remain in the spotlight with a question mark over him in the same way the McCann’s have for all these years as no one knows what did happen.

ofwarren · 10/02/2023 16:45

twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1624086876138221581?t=vFJDS1INEVyT7IAGcuZkyQ&s=19

Family of missing mum Nicola Bulley going through "unprecedented hell", says partner

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confounded234 · 10/02/2023 16:46

Allgoodthings1 · 10/02/2023 16:44

Two weeks on and it doesn’t look like they’re getting anywhere at all with this case 😩 Of course someone may have phoned in with a crucial piece of info and they just haven’t investigated it yet but it really does feel like it’s hit a brick wall. I can’t cope with the idea of just never knowing so I cannot imagine how her family will be feeling, especially her poor mum and dad 😢 I really feel and have since very early on that this is an abduction and Willow was by the gate because that’s where she’d gone or she had been put in that way by someone who had taken Nicola from the field. It’s infuriating that there’s absolutely no witness or evidence at all though 😔 I just want to scream for them and she’s not my relative. Sadly, unless something is found to suggest what actually happened her partner will remain in the spotlight with a question mark over him in the same way the McCann’s have for all these years as no one knows what did happen.

I don't think it's the same as the McCanns at all. My guess is that PA has an alibi and was home the entire time. Police haven't said this but they don't have to.

Tamarindtree · 10/02/2023 16:49

Paul Ansell said he is '100 per cent' the mortgage advisor, 45, did not fall in the River Wyre in Lancashire, as police believe.

........

But there is NO evidence of anything as to what happened to her or where she is.

Mirabai · 10/02/2023 16:53

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 10/02/2023 14:55

Agree with pps @Mirabai how DARE you tell people how to post and what is appropriate according to you, and that a suicide couldn't possibly happen in 3-4 feet of water. You know nothing about what happened with Nicola, and you have NO right to tell people how to post. If people wish to discuss suicides of their loved ones, that is their right. It's a free country.

That is not even remotely what I said - I said that - personally - I wouldn’t attempt it in water that is 3-4ft at the side of the river, where walkers going past regularly.

I never said people shouldn’t discuss personal experiences of suicide, simply that a thread on Nicola Bulley is not the appropriate place.

Bluekerfuffle · 10/02/2023 16:53

The police (along with everyone else, it seems) always seem to suspect a partner first. You can be sure they have been thorough in ruling him out. As well as it being extremely unlikely and tricky for him to have snuck down to the dog walk area (where she was seen and he wasn’t, so she was definitely there in that time period), there was proof he was at home at the time. There is no reason for there to be a cloud of suspicion over any or her family for ever more.
I agree with Sue that the most likely scenarios were either her falling into the river or being abducted. The other scenarios have far more holes in them.

Catstaps · 10/02/2023 16:55

She’s been abducted 100 %

MaggieFS · 10/02/2023 16:56

MaggieFS · 10/02/2023 14:42

Are the only ways out of the fields the kissing gate behind the bench and the private locked gate into Rowanwater or are there more?

Giving a bump to this q please if anyone knows the answer?

Mirabai · 10/02/2023 16:58

The stance of the police points to them having this crucial information that leads them to be sticking so steadfastly to the drowning theory

I don’t know that it does, the police didn’t to have any hard evidence to steadfastly stick to a MP enquiry for Claudia Lawrence - and at week 5 it was turned into an murder enquiry.

I get the impression that it simply seems more plausible than the alternatives.

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