Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

If I recall correctly, the finder was walking with his female companion.

I'm referring to the woman who we are not allowed to name, who tied up the dog.
She owns Wyresdale

You write “the abduction” like it’s a given. There is nothing to even say she was even at the bench.

last she was seen was somewhere between 9 and 9.10 in the upper field. That’s it .

Sorry for the fail link

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11735595/Second-witness-saw-shabby-suspicious-red-van-area-Nicola-Bulley-went-missing.html

No SI Riley has explicitly said she does not expect ANY criminality in this case and all avenues involving foul play have been "discounted".

She 100% thinks Nicola is in the river and is dismissive of any other suggestion.

What? Was Emma the person who saw her?

At school I presume

Ah ok so not the person who saw her in the upper field

I think it's worth stating that I don't think there is much mystery about where she was until she was seen at 9.10 and from what we can tell, this was a 100% reliable sighting.

No one has seen her after 9.10. No one.

And yet they still have 40 detectives working on it and they're still chasing up and examining dashcam footage.

They have their own reasons.

The only possibility that I can think of in the cops defence is that they somehow have strong reason to think that Nicola has chosen to disappear or to kill herself. I don't think that would be released to the public.

"But all those scenarios involve her leaving the field somewhere other than by the gate near the bench. So how did the phone get there and why did the dog hang around there?

You can speculate as much as you want about things that could have happened but unless they fit in with the dog being near the bench they didn't happen."

No they don't.

Or they are biding their time?
If they have reason to believe she was taken, but with no strong evidence, I don't think they would tell the public.

Yes that is a possibility but not being an expert in investigation strategy, I don't know if this is really a thing that cops do ie. deliberately misdirect to lull a suspect into a false sense of security. I know some cops follow this thread so maybe they could offer their opinions as to whether this is a likely scenario, or whether it is more a plot device employed in TV dramas.

That doesn't mean they have discounted anything though, the NCA haven't found any 'missed leads' on their review, there are tonnes of detectives assigned to it and she said they were prepared to upscale this as much as necessary if needed. They can't initiate a criminal case though if there is no evidence at all to suggest this could have been the case. Rightly so really as this would give the police additional powers and I personally prefer them to have to meet certain criteria and thresholds.

From the outset ie how quickly it was approached as a missing persons enquiry and the statements police have made from the start I suspect they have more info that isn't appropriate to share. I reckon if it is resolved at some point more might be made public and it will seem more obvious to us too.

What's clear though is that they aren't dismissing any eventuality and possibility within the realms of the info and evidence they have.

I thought the park owner the woman 2nd witness was by her self in the top field. But it says her husband was with her. And he found the phone near or on the bench, and she tied up the dog. I need to go find the news thing I read last night.

This is the woman who called her DIL? So she's likely got a son at least

Today is the first I've heard about her being with a man.
The timeline is so confusing.
Maybe they know more than they are letting on? Who knows.
The entrance to Wyresdale is right there.
I'm sure the police must have done everything they could to rule that kind of stuff out though.

The reporting and even police timelines seem to have changed since the start. I think the latest that they're pretty set on is that NB was spotted at 0910 in the upper field, the phone was in the vicinity of the bench at 0920 (as noted by telemetrics) and then both willow and the phone were found at 0933 near the bench. The next time given is 1050 when police when the school was notified. It seems who the witnesses were and whether the phone was found by the initial person who found willow or another person seems to have changed?

Yes that's the one

I’m not sure it’s completely dead - there’s a chance that she may turn up downstream in the coming weeks, but even then she may have gone in downstream. The available evidence thus far doesn’t support the water theory.

If we go back to the last concrete sighting - it was 8.47 I think that she interacted with a friend. She then sent an email and logged onto Teams - that takes you to 9.01 I think.

9.10 she is said to have been seen by a 70 year old male dog walker who “knew” her (by sight I think) - but aiui that was actually from across the field.
Given the fallibility of eye witness testimony, the sheer volume of light-brown haired women in puffas, and from experience of my father’s facial recognition skills, I don’t regard that one as cast iron.

The last place she was known to be was in the upper field. There’s then 30 mins until her stuff was found. It’s possible she never was at the gate.

twitter.com/peterofthelane/status/1624017096370692096?t=5zBOioljbHBJlILJa81CvA&s=19

Channel 5

A police water search team back on the River Wyre this lunchtime downstream from the village where Nicola Bulley disappeared exactly two weeks ago

No, the one scenario that fits is that she left either voluntarily or not via the gate near the bench - that was my point.

Do you think anyone would abduct her at that time of day, take her down that path to the main road, then walk along the main road to his car?

twitter.com/Politocrit1/status/1624016544446521344?t=LuB9JZSNl02wlkr75RNO_Q&s=19

Former Police Commissioner: "Lancashire police may have breached national guidelines by not drafting in another force to help the hunt" in Nicola Bulley case.

These ex coppers aren't really helping with their input are they. It's been confirmed that they sought support and guidance from the NCA (presumably the missing persons unit unless there's something else going on we don't know), and have resources pulled from the wider region. I'm not sure how that seems to be wildly breaching guidelines, the much bigger issue is that this has spiralled beyond what most missing persons enquiries do and its hard to manage due to the public interest, social media speculation (fuelled by her friends imo) and media misinformation.