Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

I've yet to see an expert come out and say he's fully supporting Lancs police and that they are doing a fantastic job.

I'm another local person.
I'm facebook friends with a police officer in the area.
They posted a facebook status yesterday, driving along the road bits near the river, further along, in the more tidal area, and walking their dog, with a caption stating, "Another day looking… she may not actually be in the river but it’s all we can do".
The officer personally believes she's not in there, but walks the dog where the river might take her.

Presumably because only ignorant gobshites pass comment without being in full possession of the facts.

Exactly.

Judge their actions not their words.

The huge manpower deployed - including 40 detectives are not wading through the river. They are working on other lines of enquiry - medical episode away from the river, taken her own life away from the river, has walked out of her life, abduction or murder and concealment within the riverside area.

Its so frustrating
So many things I'd like them to check but they cannot while it isn't a criminal investigation.

"No, the one scenario that fits is that she left either voluntarily or not via the gate near the bench - that was my point."

Yes, in each of the scenarios I've posted the starting point would be through the gate near the bench.

It may not even have been her that sent the email, logged onto teams or sent the text though. If someone knew her passwords then could have been someone else.

The initial timeline is very woolly. A man/a woman/two of them/phone on bench/phone not on bench/calling dil 90 minutes after/recognising phone picture or not…

I’m not saying it’s sinister, just very muddled such that it’s difficult to make sense of what went on.

i can’t help thinking that the abductor theory is a non-starter: a flasher (hate that term actually - minimises it) or someone committing a sexual assault would maybe strike, but to remove an adult from the scene?

I think she lost sight of dog, thought he was in the river and toppled in. Rivers aren’t 100% predictable so by some fluke she has been taken out to sea or sadly sucked into the mud.

I suspect that the Police are fully aware of Nicola’s intentions.

They are being asked by the media. They didn't come up to the studio and say, here's my opinion.

I keep hearing this "full possession of the facts" like the Lancs police are mastermind sleuths playing a blinder. Other than info around the state of mind of Nicola, I can't really see what other "facts" they are likely to have that can't be shared. It's not a criminal enquiry, why not get everything they have out there if they are all so open minded and open to possibilities?

"There’s then 30 mins until her stuff was found. It’s possible she never was at the gate."

It's not possible. You have to go through the gate to get to the field. Her usual route would bring her back down through the gate again. It is at this point she "vanished" and if she didn't go in the water then it's likely she went back through the gate.

I tend to agree now. It's the only explanation that makes sense. it could also be why we don't hear much from the family now. Only they would have been informed, not the friends.

How does leaving the field via the gate to Rowanwater leave the dog at the bench/gate?

Exactly my thoughts

"A police water search team back on the River Wyre this lunchtime downstream from the village where Nicola Bulley disappeared exactly two weeks ago"

Every day in the hour leading up to high tide when the water is moving most and you can see there that the officer has his foot on the bottom of the river. It's shallow and todays tide is 9 metres, the biggest we've had for some time.

It would also explain why SI Riley is so convinced that there is no foul play.

Exactly
It's so frustrating

The only answers they are looking for is how and where.

Sadly I fear that may be true.

I agree.

PF did a good deed supplying support but he has no business speculating publicly without the background evidence as the consequences are damaging and derailing to the search.

He is not a qualified criminal investigator.

He’s reckless and needs to be very careful what he says as it’s whipping up disruptive SM sleuths who are turning up on site.

He has no idea what the 40 detectives have generated and where they are with surveillance.

Often in abduction cases they don’t want to spook a perpetrator who may be holding the victim alive or they are watching specific premises/people for them to slip up. PF and the friends could have inadvertently compromised the efforts of the police IMHO.

The media know which 'experts' are most likely to give them uninformed gobshite opinions.

Real experts, particularly active ones rather than retired, don't give opinions unless they're in full possession of the facts. Unless they've a book to promote maybe.

"How does leaving the field via the gate to Rowanwater leave the dog at the bench/gate?"

It's a small field. You just walk across it. Leave the dog and belongings behind the kissing gate. Cross the field. Voluntarily or involuntarily it is the most "sensible" way to go if you don't want to be seen.

@User45378754 I was carefully avoiding saying some of that, for obvious reasons.

Absolutely true, but the chances of another person knowing her passcode/plausible comment to her work colleague/logging into Teams is small.

As I said the last concrete sighting is 8.47. So it’s not a 10 mins window to account for and it’s not even just until 9.33, although she was missing at that point, it’s really until her DH and the police arrive 10.50-11 am.

That’s my sense and the accident/falling in is a sensitive use of non committal language to save distress of family at this time and to follow standard communication guidelines around avoiding the use of the word suicide as it can be triggering for others.