Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

Has this fence gone then? Between the south end of the site and the river.

I agree with you

"If you did enter/leave by those routes, where's the next place that's covered by (working) CCTV?

You could cross the fields for miles and miles and not be seen on cctv. No roads near them either, maybe a farmer, maybe not. I'm not saying that I think she did, I have no idea either way.

I just find it strange that people are being led to believe there are 3 ways you could leave and that 2 of them have cctv. That's simply not true.

I think it's the police who are peddling that line. If they suggest otherwise then their dominant narrative that she fell in falls apart. There's almost no CCTV coverage in this area, this much is obvious. Had there been, we'd have seen footage of Nicola by now. We haven't/

As it stands it is 2 weeks now since she went missing. The longer time goes on without her body being found, the less and less likely it is that fell in the river. There has been an unprecedented search into a river that is not tidal above the weir, very slow moving, and not even very big. This is a very different scenario from someone falling into a large fast flowing river with no weir. I could see in that scenario why they might keep the lead hypothesis as falling in, and I could accept that we might take weeks to find a body. But not in a small slow shallow river with a weir..

Some have suggested that they have "undisclosed information" that she fell in the river. If that were the case, then why bother with any other lines of enquiry if they are so sure?

Really praying Nikki is found today and safe. My heart breaks for those 2 little girls, it's every child's nightmare to go to school and their parents be gone.

If Nikki is in the water then praying she is found rapidly, I don't know much about forensics but I presume more insight into what happened will be given if found soon than if left for weeks.

Let today be the day

@pigsinoodies no but it's only low, you just hop over it and you're on the footpath that runs along the lower end of the park. It leads to the path and then to the bridge that crosses the river just a minute down from there.

It can take a long time for a body to appear even if the rivers have been searched. I recently watched the programme on Libby Squires and she was in the river which was searched and they couldn’t find her, then they luckily found her 7 weeks later. It can take a long time for them to be found.

If you leave across fields you'll also need to hop over a fence or a gate or two. Pretty standard practice round here.

It's all very strange and the media reporting is an absolute mess. I hope she is found soon.

I agree. Well said.

@autumn1610 have you seen the Hull estuary? It's fucking enormous, amazing they ever found Libby.

It has absolutely no bearing on that stretch of the Wyre. Morecambe bay is treacherous but mainly for its changing sands and fast tides. Neither of which are relevant to the river on that day.

But Libby Squire was murdered next to the Humber. One of the biggest rivers in the country. That is a very different scenario from falling in to a river that is a mill pond at the moment, so shallow that the dinghy ran aground, and is probably 10 yards wide max, and has a weir that experts have said would be very difficult for a body to cross.

I've just had a Facebook memory pop up from one of my walks last year. Like you say, you can just walk and walk. Hopping over stiles, climbing gates etc.
I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that right now.

But not with an abducted woman presumably. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. It's one thing being able to access a field over a fence, it's quite another thing taking someone away over it.

Ok, thanks. It's changed since that pic then? That looks quite hig and topped with barbed wire?

But not impossible if they were held at knife or gun point. Unlikely but far from impossible

Wouldn't take much to make a woman in fear for her life to hop over that fence. Or a couple of fields. Or to walk along the tree line.

But then wouldn't the dog have been found up there where she left the field?

Not if the phone and dog are a misdirection. There's no evidence to say that she returned to the bench area. Her phone and dog did, but no evidence it was her.

So someone abducted her over the fence, them left her to take the dog back to the bench, let the dog go, and rather than follow him or go back to where she last saw her owner she stayed around the gate/bench? And what was Nicola doing while the dog was being unnecessarily taken back to the bench?

True, but there were witnesses at 9.10 and 9.33 and it must have been difficult for another person to be there and not be seen.

However, the police timeline issued yesterday did say that the 9.10 timing was still being verified.

And no information has been given for the routes (and therefore likely sight-lines) of either the 9.10 or 9.33 witnesses. So it's far from clear whether that possible window is a window at all.

"So someone abducted her over the fence, them left her to take the dog back to the bench, let the dog go, and rather than follow him or go back to where she last saw her owner she stayed around the gate/bench? And what was Nicola doing while the dog was being unnecessarily taken back to the bench?"

No, Nicola followed her normal route. So after being seen in the top field she continued back to the bench, through the gate with the dog etc. Then either left of her own accord or not back through the gate.

It's all conjecture but the problem is that the focus is ENTIRELY on that Nicola left her phone there, let the dog off the harness, then fell in. There are a lot of assumptions there that are being rather stubbornly held on to.

I agree, the scenario that an abductor went back there is unlikely and very difficult. What is possible though is that Nicola was taken by the bench then led through the gate under duress. Or that she has walked off of her own accord.

To my mind, the river theory is dead, for the reasons I've stated above.

It strikes me that that scenario requires 2 people, access to an otherwise unoccupied caravan, and a hell of a dose of good luck

Why does everyone appear to think that Nicola left the phone on the bench when it has been stated that a male walker found it on the ground and placed it on the bench, as far as I know, no-one has said exactly where he found it.