Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

Almost certainly. Two reasons:

• her Strava page (which shows walk up to November shows that route fairly often
• it's the logical route - to go along, round the field and then back to where she left the car. There aren't many other (unlocked) exit points that don't take you back towards the general area of the bench

(working from maps - locals please correct if wrong/incomplete)

My thought that she may have raced off dropping phone etc to go get her dog if it was chasing livestock in a field. A common thing to happen in life.

Why do you have a issue with that @itsnote ???

Yet every one else can ramble on about abductions and searching businesses??

The other day when she accompanied Paul to the scene I genuinely thought they were doing a reconstruction. She was wearing more or less what NB was when she went missing and had her hair the same, strange imo.

Maybe the police should ask this question... oh wait, they probably already have.

@AuntieStella thank you

The dog was in an enclosed field with no livestock in it. Are you suggesting that after running around chasing animals with its owner chasing it, it ignored her when she fell over and voluntarily returned to the enclosed field, giving up its livestock worrying.

Nobody has mentioned any livestock being anywhere near - not even the woman who complains about dogs without leads and owns the smallholding.

"My thought that she may have raced off dropping phone etc to go get her dog if it was chasing livestock in a field. A common thing to happen in life.

Why do you have a issue with that @itsnote ???"

Well, there are no cows for a start so she wasn't kicked by one. But you're either being deliberately obtuse or you're just typing any old rubbish out. If she chased the dog into a nearby field and got kicked by a cow do you honestly think they wouldn't have found her?

@RosesareBlooming You don't have to be so rude and sarcastic. Really your replies are unpleasant and not called for.

My post was prompted because I read another post on an earlier thread from someone who worked with police on cases. They said witnesses statements can vary and assumptions made and she used to work with witnesses who had made statements to fact check things. That's all - I don't think for one moment the police hadn't thought about that but I thought this was a thread to discuss things but there are a lot of very nasty aggressive sarcastic replies.

"She was wearing more or less what NB was when she went missing and had her hair the same, strange imo."

Everyone on the school run wears the same. It's not strange. You're wanting there to be some seedy gossip where there is none. That says more about you than it does about women of similar ages following fashion trends.

We only have their word as to their being close friends and not casual acquaintances. I believe one is a good friend the others less so.

Are there now two CCTV blackspots or is this misreporting?

"Police admitted it was possible she left the area through the "kissing gate" behind the bench where her phone was found. However, the footpath, which leads to a caravan park, is not covered by CCTV"

That's the gate and path that's been discussed all along.

I notice the Daily Mail report has reported that there's another path to Garstang Road up the side of the Rowanwater site. I don't think that's the case - I think it's fences at both ends with access only from the site. They may be right and me wrong, but I think they've taken the police reports of the path to Garstang Road/Lane, found the only Garstang Road on the map and assumed that's the path.

There's loads of "black spots". You don't need to follow a footpath. You can just cross the fields or take cover in the tree line to the road.

Yes, the whole thing is a CCTV blackspot - it's fields and a footpath, not a London park after all. Any CCTV coverage is accidental.

This is my feeling as well - throw in PF and you have stirred up a right mess of misinformation and speculation - all well intentioned - but all ill informed of the facts……which then just whips up the SM sleuths who rock up to the village causing distress and diverting and draining the police of their finite resources to deal with them.

The police have lost control of a basic core media strategy as these others have gone off unilaterally causing confusion.

We have no idea for instance if the police had the ‘abandoned’ house under surveillance whilst Tilly Ann is telling the world it needs searching …. it then gets ransacked by vigilantes as a direct consequence of her hyped up communication - which then proved to be false / inaccurate but by then the damage was done…..to the innocent family who own the property and if it was a target of the investigation it would have disrupted or destroyed any evidence police were waiting for.

I am not saying at all that there was any suspicion around that property - just trying to illustrate how well intentioned but ill informed comments are reckless and dangerous.

@pigsinoodies if you carry on walking from where she was last seen you can follow the path round the edge of the Rowanwater site and out onto the road or keep going and come out at any point along there.

I don't think there's any seedy gossip, just found it quite jarring as the image of her on the bank was similar to the one of NB on CCTV.

Of course it didn't, it not scooby doo. It is ridiculous the amount of credence people are giving to a dog.

@pigsinoodies Thank you for your explanation.

I don't live in the area so rely on what the police drones and videos show. I was not there that day, and neither were any of you. I saw cows in a field, and been a dog owner, and the fact her stuff was near the bench wondered if some thing had startled her. a common theme may have been she went to get her dog. And don't blah you know what her dog would do no one knows that. So we are only allowed to choose between she fell in, run away, or abduction stories on here which also mean nothing without proof!!

@dawngreen ok then, have it your way. Maybe she was kicked by a cow and nobody has noticed her there 2 weeks later.

It would seem so. Also the fact that the police have released no CCTV of Nicola other than at home getting into the car (and that just looks like they borrowed it from the family) further suggests that the notion that there are "few options to escape unnoticed" is misplaced at best. Unless of course the police are holding back CCTV of Nicola on the walk, but I can't for the life of me think why they would do that.

If they've got no CCTV of Nicola they aren't likely to have any meaningful CCTC of anything else either. Hence the appeal to dash cams.

I agree. It’s not trained, it’s rare a dog will just ‘search’ like that.

I think she put phone down, left the dog sniffing around, distracted and went to a more dangerous part of the river to take her own life. I think it’s wishful thinking that she’s just upped and left and is alive somewhere and people just want her to be ok, which is natural.

@Candletow everyone wears that here.

Thank you!

I hadn't realised how many possible ways out (and in) there were up there - I'd somehow thought it was just the locked gate into the caravan site.

If you did enter/leave by those routes, where's the next place that's covered by (working) CCTV?

Though of course there wasn't a third party there when Nicola was seen at 9.10