Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 6

[ofwarren]

These threads are to discuss the disappearance of Nicola Bulley from St Michael's on Wyre.

No speculation without evidence please.

Here are some frequently asked questions, with answers:

1.Where do Nicola and her husband work?

They both work from home which is why he was at home on the day she went missing.

2.Where was the dog harness found / the phone?

Dog harness was found near the river edge not the bench, phone was on on/near the bench.

1. Has the river been searched?

Yes by the police and volunteers from the Specialist Search team

1. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her having gone in the river.

1. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Nicola’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call.

1. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

This was not unusual, She used to go on work meeting calls with video off and microphone

1. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

He was at home at the time.

1. What about this abandoned house?

Its not abandoned. Its owned by a lovely family who have lived in the village for generations and would do anything they can to help in the search for Nikki.
It has been searched, inside and outside, from top to bottom by the police. This has been clarified with the family themselves and also with the police.
They have never refused entry to the police or told them they need a warrant to search.

1. Did Nicola have a dog ball with her?

No she didn’t she used to but stopped taking a dog ball on walks.

10. Was she swept out to sea?

The police Seargent has said it’s now a possibility Nicola’s body could have drifted out to sea.

11. We’re CCTV cameras working in the area:

The CCTV camera which would have captured everything unfortunately wasn’t working. But the police are actively working to identify 700 motorists travelling in the Garstang Road area on the 27TH of January.

12. Are there any other paths she could have gone down?

Apart from the river, there are only three exits, two of which are covered by CCTV. On her way in, she was seen by several people. No one saw her leave.

So the problem is she didn't disappear in a 10 minute window as previously said, she disappeared anywhere between the last sighting and when the police arrived.

I'm not sure to be honest if they're helping or hindering the attempts to find her. Not a criticism on their intentions but cripes it's fuelling the fans of social media ridiculousness. I guess we aren't supposed to mention the GFM.

This is the most bizarre part in my mind. There is an hour and 17 minute-ish window between the dog being tied up and as far as we know anyone else coming across either NB or the bench (they'd have surely seen Willow). I would bet there's additional info or data to highlight the 10 minute window being significant that we aren't privy to, it doesn't seem a hugely quiet place and they haven't appealed for or mentioned witnesses or whatever in that time which surely they would if they had nothing. We don't even know if NB was ever in the vicinity of the bench even I suppose, just that Willow and the phone were.

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Emma White on Sky News
Has she cut her hair or is it just damp and tied back?

She wasn't seen after 0910. She wasn't in the field when people arrived at 0933. The dog wasn't running to where she was somehow concealed at 0933, nor was it running around looking for her.

How can she have 'disappeared' after 0933 when she already wasn't there either at 0933 or for the time it took for at least 2 other people to exercise their dogs after that?

She was clearly somewhere between 0933 and the police arriving but she wasn't in those fields.

What’s GFM?

What time was Emma White on R4 and what was her message?

This seems possible to me. If she were on the westwards return path of their daily walk, the dog would become very confused and agitated if suddenly she did a 180° and proceeded to go back from where they had just come.

The Sun have been quoting a woman who said she was “on her way to the cake shop” that day and saw a ratty red van parked in front of a barn. She thought it was suspicious and told the police.

So the comment you saw might have been about the same van.

But the dog might have run back to where the harness was, but equally it's a dog, we can't put too much on a dog, the people that say about taking the dog back and seeing if it 'reacts' are barmy

It does seem that if she fell into the water it must have been beyond the weir. How far is it on foot ? I was mulling over this earlier, why her things might be still on the bench, and I remembered times with my own dog when he would run off, after a rabbit or something, and initially he would be close but would then keep going further and further away. So I could imagine Nicola leaving her phone on speaker on the bench and dashing to get Willow who keeps going further, then Nicola falls in the river somehow, trying to get her dog, and Willow returns to the last place she saw her.
The glitches in this are that I don’t know how far it is, and I think that beyond the weir has been searched pretty extensively too ? Also that Willow may have good recall. It was a place she went to very frequently too, It is easier to predict what your dog will do in a well known area, and to preempt things by putting it back on the lead at certain times. Also the water beyond the weir was not deep at all, and the helicopter used thermal imaging and I assume did that beyond the weir. There are obviously limits on how far anyone would go chasing their dog too, most of us would go back, get our phone and the lead, and call someone to help if we still couldn’t find our dog.
So that is where I get stuck. She can’t have gone in before the weir as it has been searched so extensively. Beyond the weir it is more influenced by the tides, and possibly less well searched ? But strange to go off some distance from her phone and the dog’s harness and lead, which if the dog was being unruly, would be things you would want with you.
This case is giving me sleepless nights. The way she just walked out one morning and disappeared, her little girls at home, her family frantic. Like many others on the threads I sadly have personal experience of a close family member who also walked out one morning and never came home, which is making this more painful. I also have a DH (in the coastguard) who is often searching for missing people, and every time I lie awake hoping that he will call me and say the person has been found and is safe.

They have taken it back. It didn't 'react'.

Gofundme

Everyone has their theories about what happened and likelihood is that at least one person is correct with their theory about what happened to her, it is just so sad and frustrating that we dont know which theory is right, I wish Willow could speak to us all and tell us where she is. 😔

Not all dogs are natural detectives even if they are loyal and loving.
It must have been upsetting for the dog to return.

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Security firm offers their services to the residents of St Michael's following recent anti-social behaviour incidents

This seems possible to me. If she were on the westwards return path of their daily walk, the dog would become very confused and agitated if suddenly she did a 180° and proceeded to go back from where they had just come

I don't agree that a dog would be confused and agitated if she turned and walked the other way

Mine wouldn't.

Part of recall training often involves handlers changing direction to check the dog is aware of where they are.

The assumed route that NB took that morning, walking past the bench area and into the top field and then back to the bench area - was that one of her normal routes?

The witness that saw her in the top field, did they definitely see Willow or did they just assume Willow was with her because that is what they usually see?

Just wondering if phone etc was left at the bench area on the way to the top field and NB didn't return to the bench area

Go fund me. Apologies appreciate that acronym isn't really suitable! It was set up by EW the other day with a target of £100k which then reduced to £50k and then was deleted swiftly after backlash. She then said she was well intentioned but hadn't actually asked NBs family. I find that strange personally as she's been seen with her partner several times (not saying it's weird they've been seen together, but weird she didn't ask especially as he initially shared the fundraising page on his FB). Another friend posted stuff which wasn't true and swiftly deleted their account as it wasn't all true. Essentially the police are the ones for accurate info, not suggesting foul play by anyone she knows but something very odd about the media engagement.

The police must be so happy to have threads like this to give them ideas they never considered before. I mean it's not like they train and work in the field for years is it. Naturally, armchair detectives and conspiracy theorists who know what they see online/FB/YouTube and other media see and hear much more and will help them solve the case.

It's just a shame that some of the theories are a bit batshit and some go over and over things that have already been checked by the police, but what do they know. I mean if someone looks 'odd' then they must be guilty right?

Keep up the good work and solve this case for the bumbling police, you are doing a grand job, I mean without this thread she would have been forgotten - right?

That is uncalled for. These are close friends of hers who care.

Nothing seems to be definite and so many questions. Obviously, the police will have much more information and we can only hope that NB is alive and will be reunited with her family soon.