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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

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ofwarren · 07/02/2023 14:06

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

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dottiedodah · 07/02/2023 16:10

It certainly seems strange .The police kept saying its not a Criminal investigation at first.How could they know that though? They seemed not to want to accept there could be more to it.Many of us have dogs ,I wont walk anywhere lonely by myself./a friend was grabbed by a guy in some woods nearby .Only let her go as her labs had hold of him.Of course it should be safe in broad daylight to walk alone as a female ,sadly it isnt.I really hope Nicola hasnt been abducted .However it has happened before .Unless Poor NB has disappeared into thin air there has to be a reasonable explanation."Vile Old Women " discussing the case How very dare they! They are probably scared for themselves and their DD/GD,they are naturally concerned.

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 16:11

But the specialist diving team have said many times that the river is not fast flowing where she may have fallen in.
They said that in a drowning the body stays where it is for a long time.
They have also said it is usual for a dog to stay on the spot where their own fell and not move away.

So why are the police thinking they know better?

itsnote · 07/02/2023 16:11

"Garstang Road isn't overly busy"

Eh? The A6 has a constant flow of traffic both ways. It's always busy. 700 vehicles in 5 minutes is busy.

I suppose Morecambe would be where they might hope a search would give answers since it completely drains but anything entering the sea at knott end would generally remain at sea.

Activelyannoyed · 07/02/2023 16:12

The huge mistake the police made was the adamant statements this wasn’t criminal and a missing person from the start, they should never have said that so early on. It’s hard to come back from.

this officer is now saying that’s what they think, but she’s no longer stating it with certainly like she did before.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:12

MeinKraft · 07/02/2023 15:57

The police officer speaking there (sorry I don't know her proper title) looks like she hasn't sleep for a week

That's what I thought I really feel for her.

ThighMistress · 07/02/2023 16:12

Doesn’t morecambe -and indeed Fleetwood - have quicksand? If a body sinks underneath on its way out of the estuary does it reveal itself eventually? I remember years ago a group of cockle pickers were drowned there.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:13

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 16:11

But the specialist diving team have said many times that the river is not fast flowing where she may have fallen in.
They said that in a drowning the body stays where it is for a long time.
They have also said it is usual for a dog to stay on the spot where their own fell and not move away.

So why are the police thinking they know better?

She could be out at sea by now.

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 16:13

I mean, at what point do they accept she's not in the river. Tomorrow? Weekend? Next week? Next month? Until they do that then it won't be a criminal enquiry and it is just waiting for a body that may or may not ever appear.

In the meantime other scenarios are being neglected, whatever they say.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:13

Yes it does.

MaMisled · 07/02/2023 16:14

Why are there 40 detectives involved if they are publicly still declaring they believe she's in the river?

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:14

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 16:13

I mean, at what point do they accept she's not in the river. Tomorrow? Weekend? Next week? Next month? Until they do that then it won't be a criminal enquiry and it is just waiting for a body that may or may not ever appear.

In the meantime other scenarios are being neglected, whatever they say.

It's a large rive river that goes out to the sea.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 07/02/2023 16:14

itsnote · 07/02/2023 16:11

"Garstang Road isn't overly busy"

Eh? The A6 has a constant flow of traffic both ways. It's always busy. 700 vehicles in 5 minutes is busy.

I suppose Morecambe would be where they might hope a search would give answers since it completely drains but anything entering the sea at knott end would generally remain at sea.

It's not the A6 and I very very much doubt it was 700 cars within 5 minutes on that road

Goldpaw · 07/02/2023 16:14

The number of cars that have been identified as driving along Garstang Lane in the time period is 700, so there's a huge amount of dashcam footage to wade through.

Daisymaker · 07/02/2023 16:15

confounded234 · 07/02/2023 16:13

I mean, at what point do they accept she's not in the river. Tomorrow? Weekend? Next week? Next month? Until they do that then it won't be a criminal enquiry and it is just waiting for a body that may or may not ever appear.

In the meantime other scenarios are being neglected, whatever they say.

I suppose they have to widen their search of the river now, I think there are parts that they haven't looked at

kirinm · 07/02/2023 16:15

If the SGI team hadn't made themselves known to the family, would the police still be looking for her or would it have been concluded?

coteliq · 07/02/2023 16:18

Activelyannoyed · 07/02/2023 16:12

The huge mistake the police made was the adamant statements this wasn’t criminal and a missing person from the start, they should never have said that so early on. It’s hard to come back from.

this officer is now saying that’s what they think, but she’s no longer stating it with certainly like she did before.

She still said, in one of her answers, that this is not a criminal inquiry because there is no evidence that it is, that's why they have not been doing house to house searches.

winterpastasalad · 07/02/2023 16:18

The expert diver man was interviewed this morning and said this is the most baffling case he's ever seen. He said in a drowning the body falls to the riverbed and is pushed along by the current, and only surfaces once the decomposition sets in. He said that he examined the current (which was practically non existant) so in his opinion if she fell in she should be more or less in the same spot.

Bunniesue · 07/02/2023 16:19

AIBUYesofCourse · 07/02/2023 16:07

@Bunniesue They were allowing the public to sit on that seat within days and they were definitely not conducting finger-tip searches of the area.

They conducted forensics on the bench the day she went missing, are you expecting them to keep repeating them? It's seems as always the police can't win, and it's mainly around peoples ignorance and arrogance that they for some reason know better. The NCA have confirmed they have no doubt the police have followed all lines of enquiry from the start, there are no additional they feel were left out. They are an independent highly specialised body, do you feel you know more than them? Someone asking why they have 40 detectives assigned when they believe she entered the water- its because they have never said we aren't looking into any other options.

Imagine working in a really challenging job and seeing crap online like this. The guy who has launched himself into the spotlight (nought to do with his book of course) isn't privy to the full details of the investigation and rightly so, if you believe him more than the police, or random retired officers who should know better then that's up to you.

Mirabai · 07/02/2023 16:19

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:14

It's a large rive river that goes out to the sea.

At that point it’s a narrow meandering river with a slow flow. It becomes wider and tidal further downstream.

ofwarren · 07/02/2023 16:20

Untitledsquatboulder · 07/02/2023 15:54

OK, so your hypothesis is that between 9.10 and 9.20 someone abducted Nicola, rounded up her dog and delivered it plus phone to the riverbank bench? All in 10 min?

My hypothesis?
I've not hypothesised anything

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Bunniesue · 07/02/2023 16:21

You also need something to then proceed to criminal investigations. I'm sure if we indeed lived in a police state where this wasn't the case people would also complain.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:21

Mirabai · 07/02/2023 16:19

At that point it’s a narrow meandering river with a slow flow. It becomes wider and tidal further downstream.

If that was the case then they wouldn't waste time searching near Shard bridge which is near Thornton and the sea is not far from there.

pigsinoodies · 07/02/2023 16:21

itsnote · 07/02/2023 16:11

"Garstang Road isn't overly busy"

Eh? The A6 has a constant flow of traffic both ways. It's always busy. 700 vehicles in 5 minutes is busy.

I suppose Morecambe would be where they might hope a search would give answers since it completely drains but anything entering the sea at knott end would generally remain at sea.

It's not Garstang Road, it's the A586 which is actually Blackpool Lane at that point, despite her repeatedly referring to it as Garstang Lane. Useful.

Activelyannoyed · 07/02/2023 16:22

Togoodtobeforgotten · 07/02/2023 16:13

She could be out at sea by now.

I doubt it. The police keep saying it’s fast moving. The expert is saying it’s not. We have all watched the videos. Taken at different times of rhe day, inc the time frame she disappeared, and it certainly wouldn’t meet my definition of fast moving.

Bunniesue · 07/02/2023 16:23

Activelyannoyed · 07/02/2023 16:22

I doubt it. The police keep saying it’s fast moving. The expert is saying it’s not. We have all watched the videos. Taken at different times of rhe day, inc the time frame she disappeared, and it certainly wouldn’t meet my definition of fast moving.

You say expert- are the divers who have been working on this from the start not experts in your eyes?

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