Claire Verity being investigated by Channel 4

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...for apparently falsifying some qualifications.

Personally I'd prefer that they investigate her for pushing an approach to baby care which went out with the ark.

I would love to talk to one of the programme makers over a few martinis and get the lowdown on what actually went on. How, for example, they managed to find parents so petrified of parenthood that they'd go along with anything and then praise her afterwards.
Were any of the parents paid?

I don't think any of the parents will sue. They have all been very defensive (understandably). Mia's mum has posted a lot on the channel 4 forums about her experience - no suggestion at all that she or her husband have any insight at all into their experience, sadly.

No tiktok I didn't see that one, doesn't sound too good!

I would still love to know where the community midwives/health visitors were in all this.

the childminder mum who wanted a routine so she could return to work at 6 weeks seemed a bit misguided TBH. her husband looked totally stricken at some points. Still there they were at the end lauding it over the other aprents who didn't have sleep thru babies.

Very strange

boucingturtles, since watching these programmes I think I've realised that my mum was truby king parent
It(her parenting of me) has moulded me into a person who deosn't give or receive affection well but I still can't understand the method and could nver EVER follow it.

Concidering soppy I am over newborns I dread to think what I'd be like if my mum had of been a continium concept parent

If CV was a man and had falsified childcare qualifications so that HE could work with very young children I wonder what would happen then?

If CV was working on the wards delivering nursing care with falsified nursing qualifications what would happen to her and the people who employed her?

If I was those twin parents, knowing that I had been duped by a TV programme into leaving my newborn children under the care of someone who had absolutely no qulaifications (see night of going out for dinner and leaving screaming babies with CV) I would be suing.

i was looking at pics of myself at 3 months recently, i was like a tank. unbelievable. i was given solids from 2 weeks and on formula in a routine from birth after my poor wee mum who had wanted to bf had a haemorrhage when i was born so the midwives showed my dad how to 'do a baby'. the other children in the family were all bf and none of them were as lardy as me.
i think it's one of the reasons i'm so pro demand-feeding, i've always had to be a bit conscious of my weight and they do say that you whack down all those fat cells in childhood. is that actually true, by the way?

The problem for the parents is that it will be very hard for them to admit that they made a mistake and what they did very likely harmed their children. The guilt would be horrendous.

I was huge as well, Aitch. Solids at 8 weeks.
I'm ok weightwise but I have pretty low standards
I'm happy to be a bit curvy

You do think the parents would have had a google, though. I know I would.

bt Kitty: I don't see what is wrong with the mother of the twins being pleased with what she has achieved. I think it's great that she can have a party, enjoy herself and have two happy, healthy babies.
I do wonder sometimes whether the outrage expressed about women like her doesn't stem from envy. It's like there is a feeling of "I have had to suffer for my children, everyone should have to or else they are not as good a mother as me".

I have twins Kitty. I also party, go dancing, get on with many things in life. To achieve this I did not "starve" my babies. I did not force 2 small babies to spend their night screaming so that I could party etc. I feed and nurtured my children. I was no martyr to the cause either. I have no jealousy of Rani, only pity that she didn't value those early days with her twins. I use no rose coloured specs. I've walked in those shoes as have the mums on the multiple threads. Despite the fact that my wee beasties have painted my make up all over themselves and aren't currently my favourite children... they are loved and loving, CV should be ashamed no only about misrepresenting herself but for the way she treated those children.

I keep trying to start a new thread but can't.....
Anyway, I was googling the CV thing and found this:

From an Grauniad article about it. Belinda Phipps runs the NCT.

"Mrs Phipps said her organisation was frequently approached with "horrendous" ideas for reality programmes, such as one which would have involved taking a newborn from its parents and placing it for a fortnight with a couple whose dream was to have a child. "

What is it with programme makers? Bunch of juvenile, trite, ignorant fecking

pruners, at the programme idea!!!

TBH I find all parenting programmes awful but something like that would be...well...I'm speechless really.

You couldn't make it up, could you? It's even worse than the ghastly reality show the woman in Studio 60 refuses to bid for (take 5 engaged couples and try to split them up, couple who holds out gets all-expenses-paid wedding)
Makes me ashamed to be a member of the viewing public .

Some children really need to be protected from their own parents, who for one reason or another seem to be unaware of how harmful it can be to jump through hoops to be on the telly.

All those 'I am a totally shit parent - please make me cry on TV' programmes (what else is 'Honey, we're killing the kids' but that?) , and the ones which say 'Look how fat my kid is' and 'I'm really abusive to my kids'.....they have real kids who go to real school the next day after having their real emotions broadcast for entertainment, and the parents excuse it by seeing it as a route to getting 'help'.

No - they are all feckin attention-seekers who put their desire to parade their own private life ahead of their own children's needs.

And I think all the Bringing Up Baby parents , yes all of them, including the Spock and Continuum Concept ones, need their heads examining. TV does not have the interests of your babies at heart, and why risk the health and happiness of your babies for a couple of moments in the limelight?

I tend to agree with that, tiktok.

After reading about the horrendous proposal, I am silently composing letters of complaint to Channel 4, for employing idiots and letting them loose on us like this.

But then, we watch.....

Don't get me started on the parents who go on Jeremy Kyle to get a DNA test....'how did you find out that the nasty man was my real daddy, mummy?'

'Well, I got him to go on a TV programme where he shouted abuse at me and I screamed at him and Grandma came on and screamed at him as well, and he did a special test and we and a few million other people found out he was you daddy.'

Give me strength.

Entertainment for the masses tiktok - shocking stuff.

FWIW and despite my OP I haven't seen the programme in question - I deliberatly avoided it as I knew it would make me so angry.

I'd read an interview done with CV in the past and thought she sounded insane - just about the last thing I want to do is see her nutty views given airtime.

I think that fact that her parents used the Truby King method is very telling.

I mean CV's parents used the Truby King method on her. Explains an awful lot about her.

I'm so glad I've managed to avoid Jeremy Kyle so far.

There should be a better code of practice (with sanctions) to protect children on television. Child actors are quite strictly controlled with the amount they can work, but it seems that any old emotionally damaging thing can be done to kids on reality TV. The fact that programme-makers are even able to make appalling suggestions like removing a newborn from its parents and giving it to another couple is scary.

I think it's quite easy for people to be duped by TV researchers/producers who will really say and promise any old rubbish to get people to take part their TV programme. Even if one parent is sensible enough to say no there are going to be others who are gullible enough to fall for it.

Just before having my current baby I was approached by channel 4 ( via my doula). They were looking for women who would be prepared to do the following: Allow a complete stranger into their house plus his estranged son. This was so the father could somehow regress to the start of his relationship with his son by being with a newborn baby boy ( yeah , that will make it all better then).
They seriously wanted a women with a boy baby just days old.
Now who in their right mind would agree to that?
I was angry that anyone in t.v la, la, land would do that to a woman and her newborn.

No, Kittywitch, it's not envy, it's pity for those poor babies being so badly neglected in their first few weeks of life. Human babies are born with an innate need to interact. They respond to faces for a reason. Plenty of research there to prove it if you need to back up what every ruddy mother knows - babies need cuddles!

I don't really know how to even go about telling C4 that their commissioning team are feckers. Seriously, the past ten years of tv have shown us that we are more or less at their mercy and have very little recourse when faced with situations like this. Look at how the complaints about Bringing Up Baby were handled: la la la it's all great you hormonal female loon la la la

We need a revolution.

I say at their mercy, hmm, bit ott
But ykwim

They should not have relied on the agency vetting the qualifications. Everyone quoted in today's papers has apparently been found to be fake.

Also interesting that i think the word nurse can only be used by certainly people so you mustn't call yourself a maternity nurse unless you are actually a nurse. I think it said they'd now changed the description to maternity consultant on the web site not maternity nurse.