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Claire Verity being investigated by Channel 4

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Theclosetpagansbesom · 27/10/2007 08:41

...for apparently falsifying some qualifications.

Personally I'd prefer that they investigate her for pushing an approach to baby care which went out with the ark.

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harpsicorpsecarrier · 27/10/2007 10:07

here's the interview with the mothre of the Claire Verity twins:

Had someone told me a year ago that my nine-week-old twins would sleep their way through a house party that went on until 4am, I would have laughed in their face. But thanks to the Fifties Truby King regime, my children rarely cry and were settled into a regular feeding pattern from day one.

I never imagined the life I have would be possible: the twins have slept through the night from 7pm to 7am for months, and I am always relaxed.

When I fell pregnant, I believed my life would come to a standstill. Every other mother I knew had had months of waking up every two hours in the night to screaming babies, and hardly ever having a moment to themselves.

I like routine, and although I wasn't going back to work immediately, I wanted some structure in my home life. When the Truby King method was suggested, Colin and I jumped at the chance. The theory behind it is that babies don't need cuddles or hugs.

Sir Frederic Truby King was a surgeon who practised in Scotland in the early 1900s and devoted himself to childhood welfare. His book Feeding And Care Of Babies was published in 1907, and by the Fifties was the definitive baby manual in Britain.

He believed a baby's first few months are about development - eating, sleeping and growing. Every four hours baby is fed. He should have his own room from day one, and between feeds be left to sleep alone. If he cries, his parents must leave him.

It sounded harsh, but particularly with twins, Colin and I needed time for ourselves, and we wanted the babies to be sleeping through the night as early as possible.

Initially, when we told our family and friends what we planned, there were cries of outrage. Our parents accused us of being selfish, but we stuck to our guns. And when Sam and Maya finally arrived - after an agonising 18-hour labour and emergency Caesarean - I couldn't wait to get started.

Unfortunately, the day after the twins were born I collapsed with internal bleeding. After eight days in hospital I was dreadfully weak.

The first night home with the twins - before our Truby King mentor Claire Verity arrived - proved how vital the method was. It was chaos! I put the babies to bed at 9pm, but they woke at midnight and cried all night. I was stressed, the babies were stressed - but Claire changed everything.

She insisted we implemented four-hour feeds and ensured the twins had one hour of fresh air, a bath and 30 minutes of play every day.

I was sceptical, but that night the babies slept without interruption.

It meant the babies were settled from the start. Because we bottlefed them, Colin was able to share the routine. I went to bed at 9pm, Colin then did the 11pm feed and I woke at 3am to do that feed. I felt relaxed and hardly even tired.

The only time I disagreed with Claire was when she insisted on putting the babies outside for their hour of fresh air.

They were ten days old, it was a freezing November day and when she stuck them outside in their prams - albeit wrapped up in coats and hats - I burst into tears.

But they fell asleep immediately and when they came back inside they had such a healthy glow and were so ravenous for their next feed that I could no longer object.

On occasion, I did wonder if I should play with my children more, but whenever I tried to take them out of their cots in the hour before bathtime, they'd kick and struggle.

They quite obviously just wanted - like the Truby King method says - to eat, sleep and grow, with as few interruptions as possible.

Now they're older, they love to be cuddled and played with.

Many parents may balk at our strict methods, but how many can say they loved the first three months' of their child's life? Ours was utterly stress-free.

Now friends who initially disapproved of our decision, and who are now expecting children of their own, are clamouring to follow our lead.

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harpsicorpsecarrier · 27/10/2007 10:08

sorry that was long
yeah I am sure you're right QV.
tbh they come across as heartless and stupid.
imo.

bealcain · 27/10/2007 10:09

totally agree woodenchair, just wonder if she's still gettin £1,000 and as for channel 4 as gross as the programme was i was compelled to watch the series, just to see what she did next! they got what they wanted - high viewing numbers and everyone talking about it!

VeniVidiVickiQV · 27/10/2007 10:09

well, I wasnt going to be so brutal about it

Hallowedam · 27/10/2007 10:12

This is so sad. Poor babies. CV has got this woman believing that "...babies don't need cuddles or hugs."

MarsLady · 27/10/2007 10:12

Blood boiling................ blood boiling............. that woman and her "particularly with twins" Why particularly with twins? All for a fecking party. And now............. even more horrifying her friends are clamouring to follow her methods. Wonder how she feels now that she didn't hand her newborn babies to an "expert" and that they were part of an experiment with............oh step away Mars. I want to throw something

harpsicorpsecarrier · 27/10/2007 10:14

it's OK Mars
she needed "time to herself"
and she loved those first three months, they were stress-free
well done her

MarsLady · 27/10/2007 10:18

D'oh!!!!!!!!!! It's where I went wrong.... dagnamit!!!!!!!!! I mean I've clearly never managed any time to myself with my children. And I've never made it to a party or anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RubyShivers · 27/10/2007 10:18

their babies cried all the time! i think they have selective amnesia ...
she was shown crying to CV that she couldn't leave them to cry or in the garden as a fox would get them!
she appeared so uptight TBH - always banging on about routine and terrified as to what would happen if something happended to upset it - she didn't seem stress free IMO.

CadaverousCorpulentCarmenere · 27/10/2007 10:19

And in fairness she did go through one night of hell when they didn't sleep thorough

Bouncingturtleskulls · 27/10/2007 10:21

Yep - just confirms what I have just said - how utterly selfish of them.
I'm due in about 8 weeks, yes I'm going to have lots of sleepless nights, hardly any social life and will look like shit most of the time. But I don't care. My lo will only be a newborn for a short time. There'll be plenty of time when the baby is older to get my life back on track. I intend to make sure that my baby will come first with me and my DH.
(Expect me back here in 10 weeks crying that I can't cope, I'm bloody knackered and will somebody take this screaming wriggly thing off me )

LadyTophamHatt · 27/10/2007 11:10

IMO the people who follow the CV method all the through to the end are the people who see babies as a bit of a inconvience(sp??) and the lastest must have fashion.

Ok, the babies slept through (because they were virtually forced too)but I hope they are all ashamed of themsleves now they now shes such a fraud.

LadyTophamHatt · 27/10/2007 11:11

all the way through

DeathByPruners · 27/10/2007 11:25

Oh this is gratifying

My theory is that, Daisy Goodwin aside (who knows what's going on in her mind?), not a single one of the production team will have children. I picture the men as London meeja types with gadgetry coming out of their ears and "girlfriends with a five-year plan"; the women as London meeja types who adore Nigella and buy a lot of embroidered cushions.

hatwoman · 27/10/2007 11:25

I'm not suprised c4 didn;t check her qualifications but I find it pretty unbelievable that an apparently well-reputed agency never checked her qualifications. these agencies charge hundreds of pounds to place maternity "nurses" and nannies.

on another thing - am I the only person who doesn;t find the leaving baby outside thing particularly shocking? the rest of it I don;t like, and I wouldn;t leave a baby out of sight or earshot or whilst crying but I often put dds to sleep or to gaze at leaves in the wind in teh garden while I got on with some jobs inside am I very bad?

DeathByPruners · 27/10/2007 11:34

No hatwoman, I did that. But if he cried, you'd go an comfort him/take him in, wouldn't you? I don't think CV allows such responsiveness.

I think her punishment should be being forced to do a joint degree in Business Studies and Infant Neurology at York University.

DeathByPruners · 27/10/2007 11:40

Well, then, I suggest she is wrapped up warm and left outside until she can do it. With someone throwing her a kebab every 4 hours.

CadaverousCorpulentCarmenere · 27/10/2007 11:40

lol

harpsicorpsecarrier · 27/10/2007 11:45

yes you are right Carmenere

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lissiethevampireslayer · 27/10/2007 11:58

loved the interview with Grace (one of the continuum concept mums) she made it sound verypositive. on the show she seemed to struggle quite a bit

franke · 27/10/2007 12:03

I find it particularly chilling that it was claimed she had a qualification in caring for multiple babies, whereas she hadn't. Those poor twins - I remember being revolted by her starving them with a tiny feed in the afternoon so that they would take a bigger feed in the evening and sleep through.

Agree though - it's too little too late by Channel 4. As someone else said, they'd never have found anyone with bona fide quals who would advocate these methods publicly, so it was in their interests to do sloppy (or no) research on this woman.

jofeb04 · 27/10/2007 12:12