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Woman to have baby taken away at birth...

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SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:03

because she is likely to suffer from Munschausen's syndrome by proxy

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Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 14:57

Fran, please come and tell us if you really don;t want us to start this petition

bossybritches · 07/11/2007 16:51

Thanks Beenleigh-sorry to be Bossy!!

God it's a minefield isn't it & that's just for us on-lookers trying to be supportive & not in the thick of it like Fran!

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 17:10

No probs bossy
My thinking is that she or someone that knows her must be checking this thread, so if we don't hear from her or them, then it's a green light of sorts. I could be wrong, but if it was something which she though may be damaging then I'd be surprised if it wasn;t mentioned. What do you reckon?

doricgirl · 07/11/2007 17:54

Hey it's me again

Just to say I have been in touch with Fran. She is having to travel all over to have assessments and can't get on the internet much to check these posts and I have been at work - sorry for the lack of response.

I will call her tonight and we should be able to get something up later today or early tomorrow hopefully.

Thanks for all your responses and especially Beenleigh for all your work on this.

ruty · 07/11/2007 18:07

only just seen the updates on this thread but blown away by Fran's measured, highly intelligent responses and feel even more outraged on her behalf. Feel very strongly the SS must be stopped somehow in this instance otherwise justice doesn't exist.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 18:54

doric, I haven't done anything, only just started interfering, but thanks anyway.
Ruty, excellent, spread the word. She sounds amazing doesn;t she?! Have you seen her on This Morning? It's here

ruty · 07/11/2007 19:16

just watched it all beenleigh, thankyou for link. Feel deeply unnerved.

caterpiller · 07/11/2007 19:29

How sad that they are able and willing to do this and yet they miss so many cases of serious, real cases of child abuse.

FranLyon · 07/11/2007 19:32

Hello,

I'm sorry I haven't been around. To be honest I'm not doing very well at the moment. I've received a copy of the birth plan in the post and it has really shaken me.

I'm fine with the petition Beenleigh. Thank you. And thank you all for your support. I'm just starting to lose hope now.

Fran & Molly

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 19:37

Oh my goodness Fran, you poor poor thing, don;t go, I want you to have a scan of something else

Elizabetth · 07/11/2007 19:41

I'm so sorry Fran, I don't know what to say. What they are doing to you and Molly is completely awful.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 19:41

I'm going to send round an email with the links to the This Morning web site, and your web site, and hopefully a link to the petition, I don;t think I'll bother trying to get it on to the Downing Street web site as it may take to long, but will post it here www.thepetitionsite.com

Also have just now cobbled together the following for the email, will sort out typos grammar etc

Is it OK with you, am hoping that a load of mners will also copy and paste it for ease so we can start sending it EVERYWHERE! Will hold off until have sorted petition though.

7th November 2007

You may have heard the story of Fran Lyon. If not, then this is a simplified version.

Fran is currently 31 weeks pregnant with her first baby
When Fran was sixteen years old, she was the victim of a serious sexual assault, and as a result, she suffered from mental health issues. She received therapy for two years, one year as an inpatient, and less than one following her discharge. She has not received or needed any mental health therapy since that time, and the psychiatrist that treated her has explicitly stated that she has no concerns whatsoever for Fran's mental health.

Unfortunately, early on in Fran?s pregnancy, there was a difficult situation with her (then)partner, and Fran called the police. Due to the nature of the problem and combined with the fact that Fran was pregnant, the police referred the case to social services. Fran was completely honest and open about her past mental health issues, and clear that she no longer suffered from any such problems. However, a paediatrician, whom has never actually met or spoken to Fran, has inexplicably suggested that she may in due course suffer from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. This has resulted in social services deciding that upon her birth, Fran?s baby daughter will be taken away from her.

It is abundantly clear that Fran Lyon will be absolutely no danger to her baby, but we suggest that at the very least, Fran should at be allowed to stay in an assessment unit with her baby, Molly, pending an inevitable decision that she is capable of caring for her daughter independently.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 19:47

Also was going to suggest that people could write an outraged letter using the facts in this email to their mp, and to Bridget Prentice

kindersurprise · 07/11/2007 19:51

Fran
Do not give up hope, there are a lot of people out here rooting for you and Molly. Very and for you.

beenleigh
well done for doing so much to get the petition up and running.

FranLyon · 07/11/2007 19:57

Thank you Beenleigh. I only wish it was an "inevitable decision". I fear now however that the decision has already been made.

All we were asking for was a chance.

Fran & Molly

bossybritches · 07/11/2007 20:19

Oh Fran you sound so down -which is hardly surprising given all you have been through.

Please do not give up hope- we'll do all we can to help even if it's just to be here for you so you can have a moan.

Doricgirl please give Fran a big hug from us when you see her next she is a special lady.

Beeby thanks for taking this forward we are all here poised to sign the petition when you are ready to go.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 20:45

Ta-da

www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/539543596

It seems a bit slow with registering the signatures though. I may well have signed it 4 times already!!

I'm going to set up a new thread for this

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 20:45

sorry www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/539543596

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 20:49

it doesn;t seem to work! let me try something else

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 21:01

It is working afterall. Let me know if you have any problems.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 21:10

New thread is here

ruty · 07/11/2007 21:15

i simply don't understand how this can happen. I am speechless.

Beenleigh · 07/11/2007 21:18

isn't it horrendous!!! We can do something though!!

ruty · 07/11/2007 21:19

don't have much faith in petitions I'm afraid...

FranLyon · 07/11/2007 21:26

Sorry. I am pretty down this evening, but I'll bounce back tomorrow I guess. Seeing the birth plan in black and white has just been really distressing. I understand their intentions, but I do find it hard to understand how some of this is in Molly's best interests.

Thank you everyone for all your support.

Fran