Woman to have baby taken away at birth...

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because she is likely to suffer from Munschausen's syndrome by proxy

It's a bloody disgrace. If they really think she's a danger to her child then why don't they put her in a mother and baby psychiatric unit and observe them and support her for a few months?

What they are doing to her is horrific.

Yup and Roy Meadow was the expert witness in her case, as he was in the Sion Jenkins case.

I can't remember the evidence in the Beverley Allit case but if she did murder those patients there was no need to use a spurious syndrome to prove her guilt, evidence should have been enough.

It is horrific Elizabethh

Can we help in any way do you think? Poor poor woman. They could EASILY do that, they don#t have to take the baby away.

This is someone being found guilty for something they HAVEN'T DONE! It's outrageous. This is the thin end of a very dangerous wedge, it's minority report, in secret, by social workers.

I agree this is so and wrong! something very sinister about this, feel it is more about sicial services meeting their adoption targets. is there anything we can do? a petition to sign or anything?

I think she has asked to be placed in such a unit. As if life hadnt been rubbish enough for her so far the ss seem to be creating a trauma that will only make her less stable, having your baby taken would send the sanest person mad.

I have children who i love dearly, if i had mental health problems will stories like this make me not want to seek treatment, you bet. How can that be good for anyone?

I think there is more to this story than the telegraph article implies. why is it relevant that she was raped for example?

Having said that, I think removing a child at birth is wrong on principle. If the danger is really so great that the child cannot simply be placed on the at risk register, then the mother should be sectioned instead.

What a terribly sad story. How disgusting that they are not taking what the doctors who have seen her in to account. I really hope that in the four months she has to go that the council will see sense.

Is John Hemming still involved?
Does she have a very very good lawyer?

Fran, if you're reading this please post.

What a terribly sad story. How disgusting that they are not taking what the doctors who have seen her in to account. I really hope that in the four months she has to go that the council will see sense.

What a terribly sad story. How disgusting that they are not taking what the doctors who have seen her in to account. I really hope that in the four months she has to go that the council will see sense.

this is bloody disgusting.

Everybody MIGHT hurt their child, but the vast majority do not. Should we all have our children brought up with strangers, in care homes etc JUST IN CASE?

I think the rape thing is relevant because she started self harming after that and her psychiatric issues started afterwards (but I may be wrong). How tf can women be punished for becoming ill when someone's raped them?

because men make the decisions?

How do you start a petition?

How do you start a petition?

Goodness, this is dreadful. 'Likely to suffer from' - horrific. Sinister is the right word. Someone appears to be on an enormous power trip.

I've got my 4-week-old in my arms and I can't bear to think about it. Poor poor Fran and Molly. I so hope this can be averted.

flippin nora, poor girl.

it's like saying we're going to lock you up coz you MIGHT rob a bank. barmy.

couldn't they monitor her for 6mths, give her support, then make a decision.

This is madness!

It is akin to saying that I have abused my body with poppadum overingestion in the past, therefore my children should be taken away incase I forcefeed them poppadums and kill them with salt intake

(I know that sounds flippant, but it needed to be a silly analogy to get my point across)

This is just awful. I cannot comprehend how it would feel. Hope that someone out there is able to help her.

This is so awful and tragic, draconian in the extreme.

So all victims of rape/abuse should never have the chance to be a parent, a mother?

There may be more to this, but it is scandalous to think that this is hapening in a so-called "civilised" society.

misogyny. Total lack of understanding in mental health issues. Just awful.

yes from what i could hear between cyring baby she had asked to live in a centre after the birth
Surely this can't be standard practice?

woooah, how totaly awful I had no idea MBP had been discredited.
Agree with others this is nuts, let me know if there is a petition we couls sign.

If there is more to this
and if most people would agree with the ruling if they knew the details
(that is IF btw)
they need to make that clear - this will stop people getting help when they need it most, say for PND

Her own doctor is publically saying he doesn't think there's an issue. The dr who is advising social workers hasn't MET Fran. Misogynistic in the extreme.