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Woman to have baby taken away at birth...

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SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:03

because she is likely to suffer from Munschausen's syndrome by proxy

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SpawnChorus · 18/10/2007 17:05

I thought the diagnosis of MbP had been discredited!

geekgirl · 18/10/2007 17:06

link?

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:06

cant find it on BBC news but she has just lost her appeal

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Santasmissyontheside · 18/10/2007 17:06

Thats so sad. Did she have other children?

SenoraPostrophe · 18/10/2007 17:07

I don't think the syndrome as such has been discredited, just the over-diagnosis of it. It does seem a bit harsh to take a baby away at birth though

totallyfreaky · 18/10/2007 17:07

is likely too?!! does than mean there is no dx, just a suspicion, or does she have a dx of Munschausen? Is Munschausens by proxy syndrome inevitable for patiens with Munschausens.

totallyfreaky · 18/10/2007 17:08

gosh, sorry, that was a mouthful.

Elizabetth · 18/10/2007 17:09

It has been discredited. Child abuse is real, Muchausens Syndrome by Proxy is an imaginary syndrome created by a misogynist doctor with no training in psychology or psychiatry.

There's lots of info about it here -

www.msbp.com

WideWebWitch · 18/10/2007 17:10

Oh no, was it the woman who posted on here? I do hope not.

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:10

why is it not on bbc? would be in tyne section as she is in hexham

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littleducks · 18/10/2007 17:11

is this the lady who posted on here after a long in the news thread and had a website?

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:11

she posted on here? oh no, should i get this deleted?

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SenoraPostrophe · 18/10/2007 17:22

actually a "syndrome" is a collection of symptoms, not an illness, so it doesn't really matter if the doctor who invented it had any training in psychology.

WideWebWitch · 18/10/2007 17:23

No don't get it deleted, she posted and told us what she could, was she called Fran someone?

Why tf has she lost if it is her, she sounded ENTIRELY reasonable.

Santasmissyontheside · 18/10/2007 17:26

What did she say? I missed it. Who gives them the right to take her baby? Has she had children before?

Elizabetth · 18/10/2007 17:26

It was claimed to be a pyschiatric syndrome, he diagnosed it from the most bizarre "symptoms" ever, including so-called "symptoms" in a child that led to the diagnosis of an adult, I think being a nurse or in the medical profession was another.

I think this must be the woman:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/26/nbaby126.xml

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:27

she is "likely to harm her baby" iirc
Guilty until proven innocent

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WideWebWitch · 18/10/2007 17:28

Oh bollocks, it is her, Fran Lyon. Poor bloody woman can't someone stop social services? There was an MP who was taking an interest wasn't there?

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:28

thanks Elizabethh
the story

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WideWebWitch · 18/10/2007 17:29

here's todays story

WideWebWitch · 18/10/2007 17:31

This is SO wrong.
She was raped
She had previous psychiatric illness
Her doctor has confirmed she is not a risk to her unborn baby
but some doctor who HAS NEVER MET HER has told fking stupid social services that the baby should be taken away

it's fking mad and misogynistic and wrong.

SharpMolarBear · 18/10/2007 17:32

aargh hasn't she suffered enough
well that's going to stop people seeking help for mental health problems
ok there are 2 sides to every story, I'd be very interested to hear the other side

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littleducks · 18/10/2007 17:32

THE PREVIOUS THREAD IS here poor, poor woman

FioFio · 18/10/2007 17:32

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thefunniefarm · 18/10/2007 17:34

Elizabetth, I don't think Munchausen's by proxy has been discredited as such just the overzealous diagnosis. Remember Beverley Allitt? she was the paediatric nurse in Lincolnshire, 'The Angel of Death'.