Boris Johnson - disgusting or what?

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What an insulting idiot. Shame on him.

I laways laugh about the columnist who said Upon the death of the Queen mother " when did htese poeple last see their own grandmothers/"!!

they shut the curtains of rmy Granny - meant a lot to me

agree with sobernow, it is a sorry country when someone crosses the road to avoid when your sister died less than 24 hours previously

we always shut our curtains if someone in our family dies

and do youtake your washing in?

agree with Zolapola

sorry fio
wasmenat to lighten upt hread
prob illadvised..

pmsl

it is nearly toucing floor, but no-one has died, it has just rained,,,,,

lazymum!
thats on my " how pikey are you" quiz
can email it if you like

i was talking about my own auntie btw, she crossed the road to avoid me when my sister died, she even put her head to the ground, what a complete bitchfacedcow

I ham not that pikey, e-mail me if you like, I am very lazy and dunna care

I've admitted to loving Boris on MN before and I'm certainly not changing my opinion of him now! Ken Bigley died a horrific death and for his family/friends I have the utmost sympathy but public mourning, books of condolence, footballers wearing black armbands??? - way over the top. Ken Bigley was given two minutes silence - a damn sight more than the troops or Iraqi civilians who have been killed so far have had. (And as for Soham - I don't see how you can possibly compare the two!!)

I think he's spot on about the public appropriation of private grief. I find it mawkish, overly sentimental and rather distasteful. And I cry at anything...

This was the most awful thing that could happen to a family. But sad as it it, it is ott to be mourning a man that people have never met. Be apauled by the situation, yes, want to do something about it, yup, but not become hysterical with grief for someone you have never met. That is just bonkers.

My dh is in the armed forces. He has served in the gulf (not there atm thank god). It is his job and he signed up for it. If, god forbid, anything happened to him, my life and his family's would be devistated. He would be sorely missed by everyone who had met him, his a wonderful human being. But people who don't know him? That belittles the real grief of the people who truly mourn someone. The rest is emotional masturbation.

Agree about trivialising grief. I can completely understand Ken Bigley's brother being angry, though. I think what got the Liverpudlians' backs up more than anything else was the suggestion that drunken Liverpool fans were responsible for the Hillsbrough tragedy.

Exactly, hmb.

Are we seriously supposed to believe that the footballers who wore black armbands that Saturday were all deeply affected by the death of Ken Bigley? Course not - it was done for show. So if we assume not, it makes a total mockery of the people who genuinely are affected by it. And to all those who would say it's a mark of respect - I would say it's actually the complete opposite.

There is a difference between marking a sacrifice and reveling in the emotion of grief for someone they don't know. On remeberence Sunday I remember friends and collegues of dh's who have died in the service of their country. I do not, for one second, pretend that this is 'real' grief as I have experienced it when my father died.

When Diana died, people 'indulged' their grief, I think that it is a different thing.

HMB am sending you an applause smiley!

THE HILLSBOROGH TRAGEDY WAS NOT HELPED BY DRUNLKEN FANS FORM WHATEVER TOWN

oops Sorry !need to keep rantslock OFF!

But BJ targetted his criticisms at Liverpool - outpourings of grief have become nationwide. Because he said that there was mawkish sentimentality in Liverpool, people know read that as read. There wasn't. Any marks of respect shown to Ken Bigley were low-key and respectful. A book of condolences was stolen from Birmingham - is he criticising Birmingham as well? Didn't hear him. It was a whole excuse to have a go at Liverpool because it's very easy and lazy to do so. Saying 'over 50' died at Hillsborough is enormously disrespectful - he can't even be bothered to quote 96. And repeating the same old lies about the fans being to blame? What was the point of that?

If he wanted to criticise 'mawkish sentimentality' why direct it at Liverpool?

His 'apology' was a joke. Smirking away. I'm glad he's made this gaffe so I can see him for the type of buffoon he is.

hmb - did people "become hysterical with grief" about Ken Bigley's death?
and do you really believe this statement:
"That belittles the real grief of the people who truly mourn someone" - I don't understand are you saying that you can never be sad about something horrific that happens for e.g. soham murders (and NO I'm not comparing ken bigley and soham) and time and time again don't we hear about people who suffer these terrible losses being comforted by the public support?

For what it is worth, I think the Liverpool comments were ill placed as this sort of behaviour sits ill with me wherever it comes from