Shamima begum allowed to return to UK

[mummabear1967]

Surely I’ve got this wrong? She’s actually allowed back to the UK after joining a terrorist group abroad?

Anyone just a tiny bit worried about what might happen if she does return?

I wish our government would be the same as an other sensible government. The Pakistani or Dutch government won't have her.

She's not Pakistani or Dutch! She is British. Is that so hard to understand?

It's like saying America won't have her, or Germany or Australia. She's from neither of those countries. She doesn't have citizenship of those countries. She was a British citizen. Now she's stateless. And you can't leave people stateless.

To all those saying she should stay where she is - she's an illegal immigrant as far as Syria is concerned. They are well within their rights to deport her back to the UK.

For those saying she deserves it, it happens to innocent people too and that's the issue.
You might think she's an awful human being, can you guarantee that all the people this might happen to are just as awful or that they "deserve" it?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-man-blocked-uk-home-office-passport-brussels-a9332311.html%3famp

Why on earth would Pakistan or the Netherlands take her in?

Several people in this thread are going on about Pakistan for some reason. Pay at least a modicum of attention to the case before you spout your opinion - Shamima Begum has absolutely nothing to do with Pakistan.

@safariboot

It's bizarre, it's not like the fact that her parents are from Bangladesh or that the gov have said she has Bangladeshi citizenship hasn't been everywhere

Well I suppose Pakistan is just as relevant as demanding any other country takes "ownership" of her, when she isn't a citizen of those countries.

She's raised educated etc etc in the UK and is a UK citizen.

She's our problem.

If all countries decide to start behaving like this then it would be a total shitshow.

Several people in this thread are going on about Pakistan for some reason.

Im sure they use the shortened version in their own homes when talking about POC

@GhostTypeEevee

Why on earth would Pakistan or the Netherlands take her in?

I would think it's to do with the fact that her husband was from the Netherlands. Perhaps that entitled her to claim Dutch citizenship? However I still think she should be left where she is. 'You make your bed' etc, she must even at 15 have known she what she was doing. She managed to get all the way to Syria! I don't feel sorry for her, I feel sorry for her poor babies, they didn't deserve their fate.

It's bizarre, it's not like the fact that her parents are from Bangladesh or that the gov have said she has Bangladeshi citizenship hasn't been everywhere

This is a fact disputed by Bangladesh. Perhaps they understand the complexities of their immigration rules better? Apparently it isn’t automatic and there is additional criteria that she doesn’t fulfill.

In any event, she has never been to Bangladesh, why make it their problem? That isn’t a legal point though, the legal point is they dispute the citizenship.

Having a Dutch husband does not entitle her to Dutch citizenship.

@PlatoAteMySnozcumber

Sorry that was in relation to people saying about Pakistan taking her not about her.

Sorry that was in relation to people saying about Pakistan taking her not about her.

Ah got ya. I thought you meant she should just go there! Sorry, most people seem to think she shouldn’t be allowed back.

It’s a case that invokes a lot of emotion but it is these extreme cases that really tests a government’s commitment to the rule of law. I for one want to live in a country where that is respected.

@PlatoAteMySnozcumber

I think the UK gov are just grasping at straws when saying she had Bangladeshi citizenship. She clearly hasn't. She is British and shouldn't just be foisted off on another country.

I think it's more to do with the outrage from a lot of society rather than any national threat

I totally get why nobody wants her back. There’s loads of people I don’t want to share the country with. Sadly you can’t just kick out all our citizens you don’t want.

I find it strange that there have been 100's of fighters return without all the media attention, there just seems to be a total lack of consistency.

I suppose the whole case was was pretty media grabbing from the beginning, three teenage isis brides and all that. There are few people I can recall off the top of my head that went to join isis but they are definite one (well one group). The government is pretty notorious for inconsistency.

I was incredibly sad when I heard about this case originally. I was sad for a teenage girl that felt so unwelcome in her own country that groomers/radicalisers were able to brainwash her into thinking that running away to a war torn country was a great idea.

I’m sad for a teenage girl that was forced into marrying a man much older than her when she got there... because she could hardly say no could she?

I’m sad for a teenage girl that would have committed acts of crime under the knowledge that if she didn’t, she’d be beaten, as is the custom.

I’m sad for a teenage girl who was raped and impregnated and then had her babies die.

The mention of her saying Manchester bombing was deserved... didn’t she say something along the lines of well the West kill Muslim children all the time, how is it any different? I’m sure that’s a fair summary of what she said. Well, as unpalatable as that may be, she isn’t wrong is she? U.K./America have form for killing children with drone bombs with little care. The Manchester bombings were horrific, but they’re hardly different to us killing Iraqi/afghani children. It’s all barbaric. Our children aren’t worth more than theirs.

@SonEtLumiere yes it is, especially since the law is particularly set to target refugees, citizens born here from non British parents etc.

That's why this is an issue. Once we pick and choose who can keep their citizenship and who can't, once we set precedents(and many are being set now) you can find yourself unable to come back to your home and stateless after a holiday.

She was a groomed radicalised child and despite all the precautions and safeguarding she was missed.
Does nobody remember being a rebel at that age! I used to hang out with Hell's Angels and biker gangs when I was young and got into all kinds of trouble. Nobody took away my citizenship because of it.
i think given the young age she was she does deserve a second chance.

She is British so end of story really.

madcatladyforever were you stitching your mates into suicide vests in order for them to blow themselves up and take with them as many men women and children.

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