Shamima begum allowed to return to UK

[mummabear1967]

Surely I’ve got this wrong? She’s actually allowed back to the UK after joining a terrorist group abroad?

Anyone just a tiny bit worried about what might happen if she does return?

What I find worrying is the speed with which people with throw out their justice system.

Me too.

@Everycloud12 it just proves she has a dangerous and evil mindset

A dangerous and evil mindset isn't a criminal offence but nice try.

@CoronaIsShit

If it is correct that she is eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship but she is CHOOSING not take it up due to the threat of being executed for terrorism, then she is not ‘stateless’ but choosing to be and we don’t have to overturn her citizenship revocation. I very much hope that’s the case and if there is such a thing as karma, it bites her in the ass.

If what she has been accused of is true (stitching bombs into clothing and being part of the female death squad), she obviously has no problem with executing other people. If you’re that fucked up as a ‘child’ no amount of therapy to de radicalise you is going to help. It never ceases to amaze me that people fall for sob stories that people make up to get what they want. The 3 babies dying was a stroke of genius to get sympathy from the gullible.

As for her being a ‘home grown’ terrorist, that was her parent’s responsibility not mine or anyone else’s surely?

Due to all the woke liberal elite whining about discrimination and free speech, people like her have been allowed to get away with vocally hating and wanting to destroy the very country that they are privileged to live in, in comfort and safety, so the blood that this woman and her ilk have spilled is on their hands too.

As for the posters who are ‘delighted’ she is being allowed back into this country, I’m sure your lack of brain cells will mean that you’re VERY surprised when the tiger you’ve invited to tea decides to eat you instead of the cucumber sandwiches you’ve laid out.

Great post! 👏

If you're genuinely concerned about dangerous and evil mindset you need to to focus your energy on the sentencing of paedophiles in this country. The ones currently roaming the streets are a far greater threat than one solitary terrorist who has yet to be convincted of anything.

The idea that the law only applies to certain cases is mind boggling.

With the absence of a convincing argument from those saying she shouldn't return, I'll just call it as I see it. Racism.

Meh, I know quite a few ex terrorists who have become law abiding, pillars of the community.🤷‍♀️ The UK has no right to strip a young English girl of her nationality and citizenship. It is illegal.

@coronals - exactly the issue

She may be "British" on paper but what has she or her family given back to the UK

I don’t understand the degree of animosity towards an abused young girl unless it’s racism. Venables and Rogers served about 8 years for murdering Jamie Bulger and Venables received £29, 000 compensation for an unfair trial

Get lost with the racism card. It’s lazy. I can tell you that on here and in real life thousands of people were saying those bastards should never feel the sun on their faces again. And look at what happened when one of them was released. The fact that he was given £29,000 shows you what a mockery your legal system is.

Saying that her upbringing is her parents responsibility doesn't cut it I'm afraid. That doesn't make her any other country's responsibility.

Bangladesh is saying that they won't give her nationality - if we can strip her of British nationality, why should they have to accept her?

@CoronaIsShit

If it is correct that she is eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship but she is CHOOSING not take it up due to the threat of being executed for terrorism, then she is not ‘stateless’ but choosing to be and we don’t have to overturn her citizenship revocation. I very much hope that’s the case and if there is such a thing as karma, it bites her in the ass.

If what she has been accused of is true (stitching bombs into clothing and being part of the female death squad), she obviously has no problem with executing other people. If you’re that fucked up as a ‘child’ no amount of therapy to de radicalise you is going to help. It never ceases to amaze me that people fall for sob stories that people make up to get what they want. The 3 babies dying was a stroke of genius to get sympathy from the gullible.

As for her being a ‘home grown’ terrorist, that was her parent’s responsibility not mine or anyone else’s surely?

Due to all the woke liberal elite whining about discrimination and free speech, people like her have been allowed to get away with vocally hating and wanting to destroy the very country that they are privileged to live in, in comfort and safety, so the blood that this woman and her ilk have spilled is on their hands too.

As for the posters who are ‘delighted’ she is being allowed back into this country, I’m sure your lack of brain cells will mean that you’re VERY surprised when the tiger you’ve invited to tea decides to eat you instead of the cucumber sandwiches you’ve laid out.

Excellent post

She may be "British" on paper but what has she or her family given back to the UK

At last, we finally got let to the real issue.

I'm surprised it took so long.

Saying that her upbringing is her parents responsibility doesn't cut it I'm afraid

Well who’s is it?

What does British on paper mean? SB is British due to the fact that she is a British girl born in England.

@Everycloud12

Saying that her upbringing is her parents responsibility doesn't cut it I'm afraid. That doesn't make her any other country's responsibility.

Bangladesh is saying that they won't give her nationality - if we can strip her of British nationality, why should they have to accept her?

Why does anyone have to accept her? Why can’t she just rot with the rest of the IS brides hiding as refugees?

*Saying that her upbringing is her parents responsibility doesn't cut it I'm afraid

Well who’s is it?*

It is their responsibility but that doesn't mean we can wash our hands of our criminals. It's a stupid argument.

Do you advocate the same for all underage offenders?

No one has to accept her, apart from her country of origin - Britian.

I think she should stay where she is. If the country she is in wants to deport her then it's a problem.

@DioneTheDiabolist

What does British on paper mean? SB is British due to the fact that she is a British girl born in England.

Presumably it means she's not white. Can't you hear the choruses of "send the buggers back" echoing around this thread?

@DioneTheDiabolist

No one has to accept her, apart from her country of origin - Britian.

She made her way to Syria by herself at 15 and sure as a 20 year old woman she capable of making her own way back and please her case - Or does the poor lamb need a special plane sent to a war zone to rescue her?

I mean she has no loyalty or affiliation with the UK. A treacherous person.

Why does anyone have to accept her? Why can’t she just rot with the rest of the IS brides hiding as refugees?

It's been lovely chatting to you but I can see that the sheer level of your ignorance and prejudice is rendering this discussion futile.

Have a nice afternoon everyone.

So by that thought process every right wing racist who carries out an atrocity against the state should be made stateless ? I'm thinking of Jo Cox murderer.. or the 7/7 bombers . Who actually killed people when they were adults .. should be deported to a refugee camp, made stateless without any 'due legal process' of their country ?

This is EXACTLY the type of lawless .. literally law less behaviour expected of ISIS - where you are found guilty without any access to justice.

She is a British citizen. Born bred and bought up here. She a CHILD. There is no legal definition in law of an 'adolescent' you are a child until you are 18 , when you become an adult. No grey area there.

There is no justification for not bringing her back to her home country and subjecting her to the full force of English law including a charge of belonging to a proscribed group.

You can't just abandon the legal process because it's unpalatable and unpopular.

The law is not about morals and popular opinion, It is about liability and intent and proven or not prove. by the FACTS.

There is no doubt in my mind that she needs to stand trial..and pay the consequences of a terrible decision but ONLY once she has had an opportunity of a fair trial which is enshrined in the DOHR . Under article 6. to which the UK is a signatory.

To deny a citizen this fundamental right puts us on the same path of summary justice that she thought a good idea at 15 years old. I for one would expect better from this country. I expect her to be shown exactly how responsible and law abiding country behaves. To do otherwise makes us no better than the 'perfect state' she thought she was fleeing to.

If ever the phrase '2 wrongs don't make a right ' were true. This is it.

Presumably it means she's not white. Can't you hear the choruses of "send the buggers back" echoing around this thread?

One clearly racist poster does not speak to every one else who does not want her back. However convenient it is for you.

Like Guy Burgess who ended up in Russia

She a CHILD

No she is not. She’s a 20 year old woman. She’s been married and had three children.