Am sorry to say this but.....Maddie's full DNA has been found in the hire car.

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tis on SKY news now.......

Minority - see previous remarks on Sky, I wouldn't take their reports as perfect and full accounts of the truth in every detail.

Also, re the sniffer dogs, let's not forget that Kate McCann is a GP. Part of the job is certifying death.

hurlyburly - then why keep coming back?

Mamazon - The McCanns courted publicity in the belief that it would help them to find their daughter, not to get them a place on the next celebrity jungle program.
I think now that they have asked to be given some space, to come to terms to with the recent events and allow their other children to adjust to being home after a long period of time, we as a civilised society should give them that. They have not been charged with any offences and if the Portuguese police had enough evidence to charge them they would not have allowed them to leave Portugal
Look away now. It could be just now that they are beginning the grieving process while all around point and accuse.

Hope to god that it's not true and she is ok... don't know what to believe.

I'm not taking what sky says (or anyone for that matter, I am open minded as I can't see how they could do this, as in it seems physically impossible) I'm going on what they are reporting tonight and what others reported on friday

Something has made the police react, it seems to be the partial results from Britain that has set this chain of events off. So, I wonder would the lab step inand it doesn't prove anything and say the police have understood it wrong or would they just stand by as their job is done and the results are open to interpretation

don't get me wrong, i dont think it fair taht the pressa re camped on their door step. nor do i agree with this wolf pack of journalists taking something that has been said by a waiter who said to his friend who said to his mum....... and calling it news or a "development"

i agree that people should leave them alone, if not for the parents for the poor children that are having to go through all thattheir parents do.

When i am brutaly honest i have always felt uneasy about what i have been made aware of and the odd bits of news on this case i have seen. but as i stated earlier i know no facts in this case. i am therefor in no position to cast judgment, of course this doesn't stop me having a "feeling" or an opinion.

until the portuguese police reveal a press release with evedence noe way or another we must expect specualtion of this kind.

Davina, you definitely aren't the only one to find 'the behaviour on both sides offensive.'

The case is widely reported everywhere right now with real developments having occurred recently. I could see why some of the previous speculation was distasteful, yet even factual posts in this News topic are now subject to people leaping in to trumpet their 'disassociation'. The whole silliness is making me want to pound my head against the wall. (or even better, pound everyone else's )

Can't objections be confined to actual posts that are distasteful, and not as a knee-jerk reaction to a report of developing news on the subject reported, as in any other topic?

(quick hijack - Oenophile, did you see the thread yesterday about you and others being quoted in a spanish newspaper?)

Yes thanks Jeremy It was a little loaded - apparently I 'emphasized' that there was some doubt about the last sighting of Madeleine - whereas in fact I cut and pasted a line from the Times, with a link - but that's nit-picking I guess - so hey-ho.

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Haven't posted on any of these threads but all this registering revulsion is absurd.

I'm in Australia, where I run a playgroup. This morning the mothers have been discussing the case.

To quote one of the (British) mothers:

"I've been so affected by this case. I have taken this little girl into my heart and felt so much agony for the parents. I've checked the news on the internet all the time because they weren't covering it on TV.

With the news about the DNA I don't know what to think anymore. Have I been duped? Have the parents been playing with our emotions like this? Or is this all a horrible set-up, your worst nightmare and then you get blamed for it yourself - this case is keeping me awake at night and at least if the parents did it then I'll know that dear little girl isn't still out there suffering some horrible fate".

I think she speaks for a lot of people who wish to discuss how this case has affected them, and yes, the mothers were speculating about the evidence because (1) the PJ don't give much away and (2) it's all very confusing.

However, I feel it is their right to discuss this and don't see how mumsnet differs from the mothers at my playgroup this morning.

(However, when having lunch in a cafe at the weekend I blew my top at someone who was speculating about it as though it was funny, a sort of entertaining who-done-it mystery and told him what I thought of his attitude. The motives of most people discussing it n mn are entirely different).

(and by the way, the Australians are drawing parallels with the Lindy Chamberlain case - the mother was wrongly convicted and it later turned out the northern territory government were happy to have the case solved swiftly because it was bad for tourism to suggest a dingo had taken the baby, which in fact turned out to be the case).

I have to say it is the topic of conversation here in NZ too. We have had coverage on the main news, radio news, talkback programmes and our 7pm post news programme. This is extremely unusual. IMO opinion NZ news mostly covers stories from NZ, international news has to be BIG to even get a mention at the end let alone be headline news. It was also topic of conversation at playgroup yesterday.

Same here in Sydney

What really annoys me is that they didn't cover the actual disappearance in the same detail.

It's like they're really interested in the story now it's blowing up but didn't try to help find Madeleine back in May (admittedly hardly likely she's here but nevertheless).

And for what it's worth, there wouldn;t be half as much speculation and gossip if the police would simply state the facts of the case. Half the reason people are interested is because it doesn't add up.

I have to agree, it's the did they or didn't they and if they didn't who did that is making news here. I have to say in defence of NZ reporting they don't seem to be finger pointing but rather pointing out that there seems to be a lack of conclusive evidence at the moment.

I agree wholly with mogwai

Should MN not do something about the sabotage on here as well? Planned campaign rather than individual protests I mean.
Everyone getting together and using that double line of stars is bullying, I think.

I understand their point but disagree with the method.

(at 03.30) Mogwai's post

I haven't posted on any of threads on here given that there is enough debate in real life - people are obviously horrified that there is the potential that they have been duped for the last 4 months given that this case has been impossible to ignore (especially if you have travelled thorugh an airport say).

Haven't read the thread on silence which is where I guess the "registering my distaste" is derived from, but without a context it just looks a bit childish. Wouldn't it be bizarre for a parenting site to be silent on the top-running news item on parenting?

'Should MN not do something about the sabotage on here as well? Planned campaign rather than individual protests I mean.
Everyone getting together and using that double line of stars is bullying, I think.'

I agree with you Jennifer. This is a public forum and carpet bombing every McCann thread regardless is ridiculous.

I don't like the ghoulish theories either, fair enough complain about those individually, but people are bound to want to discuss this given that this is a parenting site and this is a top news item atm.

I have sympathy for the McCanns and find all this very hard to believe. Given that the resort where they stayed is so small, who else had access to that car in the 5 weeks prior to them renting it?

I think the UK media is whipping people into a frenzy. It's much more easy to be impartial from the information we are receiving in the media in Australia and NZ.

Agree earlier speculation was distasteful. I don't see a problem in discussing current affairs, although Madeleine's case is particularly emotive. Whatever happens there are 5 people whose lives have been absolutely ruined, 6 if you include Robert Murat who whether he is guilty or not will always be looked at with suspicion for the rest of his life.

It's a tragedy for so many people already regardless of how the case is played out.

Arfishy, yes the media will always do that.

I remember the MMR debate a few years ago. And the bird flu one. To listen to the media then you'd think we were all going to catch something that very afternoon.

Sometimes these things take a long time to be resolved. Sometimes they never are at all, sadly. But in our fast lane lives we all want 'closure' (god I hate that expression) and anwers in an instant.

There's no doubt precious lives have been ruined forever here though

This story is still not on the BBC website, not on their breaking news either. Infact they are commenting on the Portuguese police playing done the DNA finds. Very different take than the Sky reports from what I can gather.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6988485.stm

yes it is. but it's more or less a denial. I'd not comment on this type of thread until the bbc reports. sky is a bit gossipy.

[sigh] The M'netter jury is out yet again - fgs it is like a pack of hyenas on these threads. Amazing how many amateur forensic expert witnesses there apparently are.

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