Am sorry to say this but.....Maddie's full DNA has been found in the hire car.

[Jezebeltheharlot]

tis on SKY news now.......

OK, can everyone who last night was speculating on the supposed guilt of the McCanns please look at the BBC story. They take the trouble to double check their stories. And it looks very different from what Sky claimed. It starts:

"Portuguese police have played down reports that DNA evidence with a 100% match to Madeleine McCann was found in her parents' hire car.
The national director of the force handling the investigation said test results did not provide the same precision as had been reported."

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'Sources close to the investigation' are often gossipy coppers who may not be privy to all the facts, who may play up the more sensational aspects (because PCs are only human, and people love gossip and being first with the news as these threads show). Please don't condemn anyone without waiting for reliable information.

And don't think DNA is simple, either. Don't forget this is a family we are talking about, so they share DNA.

registering my distaste as well

If these people are not convicted (remember innocent until proven- and the latest today was that the DNA is nto a full match) every single one of you accusing should be made to write an apology to the McCann family.

REGISTERING MY UNFATHOMABLE RAGE

"Like a pack of hyenas"

Beyond ironic.

Are we supposed to feel bad because you are registering your distate?

We are discussing a story in the news because it's bothering us. We're not saying "woooo I think the mother did it, cor, I can't wait to see how it all turns out, it's good isn't it?". This isn't a film, it's a real story and it bothers us because we care deeply.

If you don't like it, don't join in. Attention seeking through agressive use of askerisks is a bit childish in the circumstances.

Please, please, everyone just stop it.

Well the OP should feel bad for a thread title that appears to be a LIE

(and not everyone on this thread is accusing or pointing fingers. I personally have no idea what's happened and feel deeply sorry for the McCanns)

I don't wish to discuss things that make me want to cry

but I am odd like that

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If any utsider or journalist views this thread they will at least see a fair representation of how many people DON'T want to speculate and swarm around this story like flies to shit

I think more of a mistake perhaps than an intentional lie.

You should be "bothered" by the crap that passes for "journalism" on Sky News, if you are "bothered" by anything

mogwai - I think the point is that some people on here and on other MM threads have been making direct accusations and speculations over who they think did it, based on unsubstatianed claims.

McEdam - totally agree, sky news is well irresponsible with its reporting, but even they have said this:
'Police spokesman Olegario de Sousa said it was "agreed with the prosecutor" that the file would be handed over early today.

A spokeswoman for the prosecutor in Lisbon said a statement would be issued later regarding the investigation.

However Alipio Ribeiro, head of the investigative Policia Judiciaria, suggested the forensic tests had not been conclusive.

He told Portuguese state broadcaster RTP: "We can't say with certainty whether it was the blood of person A or person B."'

SO the op of this is totally incorrect and maybe the op should withdraw it now you maybe know that?

Anyway, I don't want to get into a big discussion like I did the other day, anyone who sits on here coming up with dire theories about how they must have done it are just total scumbags. Sorry, but you are. ANd god forbid you might ever need to be treated innocent til proven guilty, or need a bit of sympathy or support.

The McCanns have been through unimaginable suffering and continue to do so, it is written all over their faces now just seriously leave them alone.

poorly researched uninformed claptrap

Whyc an't people acccept that the Portugese aren't releasing evidence, therefore anything in the appers etc is speculation and not to be trusted?

Anyway am off this thread now

Nobody's asking you to, Oliveoil Mumsnet seems to be a big place, I can't understand why there isn't room for everyone.

If an outsider or journalist saw this I think you'd have a hard time convincing them that MN is populated by adults and not petty, insincere, desperately posturing adolescents.

and it is not as if the "evidence" is new , there has been fragmnets for a week or so based on this alone. Leave it to the real investiagtors ratehr than speculate on th basis of what a journalist looking to be the one who breaks the conclusion reports as "fact".

PCSmum, Sky may have backpedalled this morning, but the OP was posting a reasonably accurate line from them last night.

That's why I was appealing for calm, knowing that Sky report everything as soon as it is said and later correct, rather than take the opposite approach of waiting for clarification.

Sky reports everything asap so they are often first with the headlines. But include in that reporting stuff that is later shown to be wrong - as last night and as on 9/11. The BBC don't report until stories have been double checked. So they may appear slower than Sky but that's because they take accuracy more seriously.

the BBC may be more accurate but they're still on the bandwagon of 'no news IS news'

Mogwai, on previous threads people have directly accused the McCanns and berated them for misleading people. And no-one has been crass enough to say directly 'gosh, this is really exciting' (they've come very close though) but there has been a fairly clear air of excitement and even revelling in the latest so-called development, however misleading it is.

That's why people are registering their distaste. Because arguing with some of the most extreme posters proved fruitless and because free speech cuts both ways - if people who enjoy slinging mud are free to post. so are people who want to say 'enough'.

If there are REAL developments and actual facts placed on record, then I'm sure there will be some discussion, but I hope we can keep it fair and reasonable.

At least their reporting provides a counterpoint to what Sky claimed last night.

It's a news item and so is up for discussion.

WOnder what will happen with the care of their twins - wonder if the social services will act appropriately? and do something about the parents thinking it ok to leave them to go out?

Oh FGS maisym. What do you want SS to do? Remove the twins from the McCann family? Will that help the twins, who have already had one part of their family taken away from them? Yes, the McCanns were wrong to leave their children alone and possibly this is something for SS to look into. But "act apporpriately" - like doing what?

As a petty, insincere, desperately posturing adolescent, I'm having trouble getting my sneaky, pathetic, smug little whinney voice heard!!