i found this about madeleine

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Intercepted telephone calls and emails between the McCanns and their friends have "confirmed the death of Madeleine" say police, according to one Portuguese newspaper today. The intercepts are said to have been made in a joint operation conducted by Portuguese and British police officers.
Diario de Noticias reports investigators have already concluded that the missing four-year-old was killed in the apartment where she slept in Praia da Luz.

It says that Maddy's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann (right), and their friends who were holidaying at the Ocean Club, will be brought in for further questioning. Police are awaiting new tests from the McCanns' Renault Scenic.

According to another paper, Jornal de Noticias, police want to examine inconsistencies in the statements of Kate and Gerry McCann, who were interviewed separately late into the night early on in the investigation. In particular, they want to focus on a three-hour period in which only the McCanns saw Madeleine.

Respected news agency Lusa quotes one police source saying that they think "there's light at the end of the tunnel" and that the authorities have "an idea of what could have happened" to the four-year-old.

Police have known "for a month" that Madeleine had died in the apartment, it is widely reported. The tabloid newspaper 24 Horas says that the police are looking for Madeleine's body in the sea, helped by English sniffer dogs. They have intensified searches around the nearby town of Lagos and along the Algarvian coast, it says.

Blood found in the apartment two days ago has arrived in Britain for DNA analysis: a result can be expected inside 48 hours.

I always love people who are concerned about others who are 'niave' The poor blinked twits who make all their childrearing decisions based on advice from presumeably sites like this and decide that if 'others' think it is right then I will do x.
Really. Really ? Do you really know anyone like that? Are they able to stand upright?
So those who are posting ( again and again with no concern for the fifty squillion posts they have just read saying - guess what - the same fricking thing) are not doing what I assumed - having a nice guilt free bitch at someone who is in the midst of a nightmare beyond all imagination.
No - they are like those 50's public service ads and doing it for the greater good.How public spirited. Because some visiting amoeba will read these sage words and vow always to do as the wise womem said and have their child stapled to them for fear , not of losing their child, but of having people spend the rest of humanity deiscussingthat they screwed up as if they were imparting fresh and meaningful insight.
I tell you what. If the Mcacnns come back together lets all get together and beat the living shit out of them. They would never do it again then would they.

Personally I would not leave my children. But most people have already said that.
So would any of you who want to post that at least have the honesty to preface it with " I don't really give a shit about how they are feeling and posting this will just make me feel great so can I just say...."
The 'I am doing it to benefit mankind and [vomit] to maybe save another child' only really worked during the first 50 or 60 days

yawn

Ah touche

You know what I do each night when I go to bed, I pray for the safety of my family, and ask God to look after us, especially my daughter because I believe I would really want to die without her.
I know a few people who have lost children, and I am always moved and amazed about the strength they find in themselves to be able to carry on, because I dont think I have that inside me. And I pray every night that I never have to try.
I hope this misery ends soon for the McCann family, I really do. Whether it is the discovery of Madaline's body, or whether it is the safe return of their daughter, either way, 100+ days must be agony.
With reference to the case, there is soooo many different reports, on the same day that there was a possible sighting and they were doing DNA tests on a straw, the police were searching an area they believed she could be buried in. The distance changes (though in fairness I wouldn't know 20m from 20y if it bit me on the arse) and more details emerge. Until there is a child returned or a body found, the media is going to report and people are going to talk.
I agree that the McCann family will have to live with their decision for the rest of their lives. Either they are going to be handed back the body of their daughter, they'll spend a lifetime trying to find her, or they'll have to help their daughter get over what ever trauma she has experiened if they get her back.
What I hope comes out from this case is that other parents will not lulled into that false sense of security (esp abroad if the resort presents itself as something idillic and safe). When this initally happened I thought the little girl had wandered off and I posted I was very shocked she'd been left alone, esp with two younger children. There were lots of replies about how "it could be you ELF" but I firmly believe not - I wouldn't leave my daughter alone in those circumstances not because she could possibly be "taken" but because of all the other dangers that could become apparent because I was not there.

Just want to point something out.

Last Saturday the Portugese police gave a rare interview to the BBC. You can watch it here news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6942198.stm

In the interview the detective confirms that the McCanns are NOT suspects, and nor are any of their friends.

It's one of the few times during this case that the police have said anything at all, so I think it needs to be more widely reported than it has been as it effectively squashes all those rumours.

Hey pagwatch, good for you. I'm sick of people being holier than thou about the McCanns. Worse than that has been their over-active imaginations, probably spurred with boredom because nothing has happened with the case for a while, dreaming up ridiculous theories about them being guilty. What happened to human compassion for goodness sake? Shame on the lot of them.

I was reading one of those discussion forums about this and must admit I was shocked at all teh inconsistencies in the story so far.Can anyone verify for me that the dogs they brought in defintiely detected something because to me that is very scary if true

The dog stuff is pure gossip and speculation. The tiny specks of blood were found by using ultraviolet light (like on CSI) and could be absolutely anything from anyone.

aloha hope you got my email So grateful for teh things you sent and have sent postage to the address I have xx

Sorry, yes, so pleased you got it and liked the stuff. I wasn't going to bother about postage as it was hardly anything, but thank you anyway!

Noddy, this is what the Times reports this morning about the sniffer dogs as per a statement by Inspector Sousa of the Policia Judiciaria:

"Mr Sousa said that two sniffer dogs brought from Britain last month had uncovered new evidence in Madeleine?s bedroom that had been missed in earlier forensic science tests of apartment.

The traces, which were not visible to the naked eye, were sent for testing at the headquarters of the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham. The first set of results from the tests is believed to have already been sent to Portugal."

He goes on to emphasise that the parents are not considered suspects:

"Mr Sousa emphasised again that police were not linking Mr and Mrs McCann to their daughter?s disappearance. ?We said, again and again, until now the parents are not suspects,? but he "refuses to rule out" their friends.

Very hard to know what to make of it all. I waver between thinking they are close to some kind of (unhappy) breakthrough, to feeling that they still haven't a clue, really.

It does seem likely they will officially rule out Murat soon, having uncovered no evidence at all to link him to the case, and if that is so, that man has been most unfairly treated by the press and the public speculation it seemed eager to foster.