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DNA from bottle in Belgium, does not match Madeleine

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Wolfgirl · 08/08/2007 10:45

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/08/wmaddy208.xml

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Loobeeloo · 10/08/2007 13:00

2mum what disturbs me about the money they have in their fund is that it is funding their lifestyle now, allowing them to not work.

I agree the money in the fund is not actually helping to find her IMO only the police can really do that, there's been no reports that I have seen that the money is being used to find any other missing children either those in Portugal or elsewhere.

2mum · 10/08/2007 13:06

Loobeeloo it annoys me on here how people think its heartless to say anything derogatory about the Mc Canns. What is going to happen to that money just for them to dwindle away then? It would be good if they put that towards helping to find other missing children in Potugal or elsewhere. I wonder how much money has been spent so far since this investigation has begun and how many other people could have been helped with the money. Someone will probably come on now and get the wrong end of the stick what i mean now. Anyone who thinks what the idiotic couple did was ok probably go out and do the same thing. And thats why they dont condemn the Mc Canns .

Oblomov · 10/08/2007 13:07

I'm not sure this thread is going anywhere now.
They know that they shouldn't have left her. Their guilt and grief is incomprehensible. You can see it in the McCanns eyes.

Tortington · 10/08/2007 13:07

some people want to make me fucking puke

2mum · 10/08/2007 13:08

I know its not going anywhere, i just cant understand why people stick up for therir appalling behaviour and neglect.

2mum · 10/08/2007 13:09

some people make me want to puke too. Especially people who neglect their children.

tiredemma · 10/08/2007 13:11

Get a grip 2mum. Those children were not neglected

They were left a short distance away from their parents and checked on often.

2mum · 10/08/2007 13:12

tiredemma thats what they said. the room was around the corner not in sight so i dont need to get a grip, you do if you think thats ok to do that.

Oblomov · 10/08/2007 13:12

2mum the words you are using are too strong. And on the other thread. Please be careful what you post.

Groundhog · 10/08/2007 13:13

This has been done again and again and again. It's the same old rubbish every time in these threads.

tiredemma · 10/08/2007 13:15

yes- same old, same old crap.

2mum · 10/08/2007 13:15

Im not saying any more about this. I hope they find the little girl and shes ok.

tiredemma · 10/08/2007 13:16

Thank god for that

Groundhog · 10/08/2007 13:16
wannaBe · 10/08/2007 13:22

I think it?s wrong for the Mccanns to have a fund. I think it?s wrong because according to reports they have a £600000 house in Leicester and a second home in Scotland. If that was my child I would sell everything, everything I have, my house, my furniture, cash in all my savings, before I even considered ever going to the public and asking for money. A relative was on the news the day the fund was launched and she said something like ?people wanted to know what they could do, I think that giving money is a good outlet for peoples? emotions? wtf.

Gerry Mccann said in an interview that he would sell his house to pay a ransom. But he won?t sell it to pay to search for his daughter?

I imagine that the kinds of people who will have donated to the fund probably don?t earn in a year what Gerry Mccann earns in a month, and I for one would not be happy to be contributing towards their mortgage.

pagwatch · 10/08/2007 13:25

There are people on here that find it both pointless and distasteful that some posters endlessly, endlessly,comment negatively upon the McCanns behaviour. That is not quite the same as 'sticking up for them'.
I think it is a big leap to say that anyone who finds these comments pointless must therefore agree with the McCanns choices. And it is an even bigger leap to suggest that if they do, it is because that person also would have left their child.

I know it is much easier to try and turn this discussion into you're wrong and I'm right but I do think that it is not that simple. IT is difficult though that posters seem to need to vent some kind of anger about the McCanns behvaiour. And that to others this venting seem unproductive and malicious. It is pretty irreconcilable. Perhaps thats why these threads get so nasty ( I say having been called a " bitch with claws out" for no apparent reason)

Personally I wonder why it is that some people thrust into the spot light seem to generate public warmth and empathy whilst others - like the mother in the dingo case and the girlfriend of that young man killed in Australia seem to generate something akin to hatred. This strange view we are developing that we 'know' people from seeing them on tv seems to be almost defying reason now. And it is extraordinarily 'pack'like.

Sorry - I can't remember the names in those cases but my brain is too busy pondering to cope with fine detail.

sauce · 10/08/2007 13:28

Has there been anything more about the connection between M's disappearance & the little girl in Switzerland?

fairyjay · 10/08/2007 13:37

Don't want to get into any arguement - just feel very sorry for all involved.

But if I saw a similar little girl, I wouldn't let her out of my sight until someone had checked that she wasn't Madeleine - and surely most parents would respect being delayed because someone thought their dd bore a likeness to a missing child.

persephonesnape · 10/08/2007 13:59

pag, lindy chamberlain was the name of the lady in the 'dingo baby' case.

I tend to agree with 2mum to a point. However, I certainly don't believe that everyone who thinks the mccanns were right to leave their children unattended and out of sight whilst they had a meal, does the same thing. I wouldn't accuse people of neglect on the basis of their opinion, rather than their actions.

I do believe we, the public don't know the truth and we probably never will, but i don't think we have an absolute right to know every single detail of this case until someone is prosecuted - and it isn't our job to prosecute someone, just to have an opinion.

LaBoheme · 10/08/2007 14:03

according to reports they have a £600000 house in Leicester and a second home in Scotland

How on earth do we know for sure? How do we know what the Mortgages are on these properties - there might be no equity ffs. How do we know they haven't released money or sold things to fund the investigation?

Everything is speculation in this case, so much cannot be said and so many people are jumping to inaccurate conclusions. How anyone can criticise the McCanns is beyond me - those people who do must have no heart, and think that something like this would never happen to them. All I can say is look at yourself closely before you cast a stone.

expatinscotland · 10/08/2007 14:06

'But if I saw a similar little girl, I wouldn't let her out of my sight until someone had checked that she wasn't Madeleine - and surely most parents would respect being delayed because someone thought their dd bore a likeness to a missing child. '

Actually, I'd be pretty pissed off that some stranger assumed I was a child abductor and criminal and got the police involved in my life when all I was doing was going about my own business.

sauce · 10/08/2007 14:07

Trust you to point that out, expat!

expatinscotland · 10/08/2007 14:08

Seriously, sauce, are we going to dial 999 at every blonde, white little girl we see?

No, I would never have left my child like that, but they did what they did and I'm sure their lives are hell now because of it.

All the same, this sort of hysterical scaremongering is a bit much.

wannaBe · 10/08/2007 14:19

If I saw a similar-looking child I wouldn't do anything. If I was "100%" sure it was Madeleine, as that woman claimed, I would confront them, but I certainly wouldn't go looking into the eyes of every blonde child I saw because, let's face it, she's not going to be in the kinds of places I go to - the park/the soft play place/the local shops now is she.

It's mass histeria and it achieves nothing imo.

pagwatch · 10/08/2007 14:27

Persephonesnape - of course, Lindy Chamberlain ! Thanks

I have posted before that my 4 year old is called Madeleine - and it does surprise me that seemingly sensible people stalk us because I apparently would take her up and down Guldford High Street yelling Madeleine come here etc shortly after abducting her.
First time was in ELC with a few women of a certain age edging around and peering at her. Like being stalked by a flock of Miss Marples.....
DH now calls her by her nickname when we are out as he gets peered at worse than I do.