'Stressed' father batters his 2 yr old daughter

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story here

Poor little girl. It says he's been sectioned, shame he couldn't have gotten help sooner...

It's a really sad case. When we were growing up my father, a psychiatrists, would occasionally have to section people. It's quite rarely used or necessary. I think schizophrenia, hearing voicese etc is usually something that continues throughout your life rather than just starts in your 30s but I may be wrong. Also there has been a bit of an increase I believe because of more drug taking by teenagers and people in their 30s in some psychiatric illness. It doesn't make all of them like that but it makes more.

I wish we knew more about how it came about. Did the mother not see he was being weird and protect the girl? I think the parents were in bed together and were disturbed by the 2 year old and he just went made at her but that sounds strange. If he were in a psychotic episode he presumably would already have been talking to his wife about the people's voices he could hear etc.

i only noticed the girl had died as there was such a tiny little article in the paper about it, it was about 3 lines long, hidden in the bottom corner.. how come it was front page news on monday??

i think media coverage of this story has been v.irresponsible; the implication being he was a highly successful city banker who just 'flipped' - that is v unlikely, as mnetters here have pointed out.

The more senior you are the more control you have over your life and control leads actually to less stress. There is more psychiatric illness amongst those who don't have control which normally means lower down the pecking order. But I doubt this was a stress thing anyway if he was sectioned. You get depressed and suicidal if you have that kind of problem. He seems to have had delusions. For all we know he might have been high on cocaine which I accept is idle speculation on my part too. Anyway it's very sad and also true that all of us are most at risk always from our loved ones and not strangers.

My dd is the same age as that poor little girl. Really made me well up! How awful! I hate thinking about it

Well there may well be a trial, so the papers need to be careful not to jeopardise proceedings. In fact I first read about this sad sad story on Monday morning while on the bike at the gym. I picked up the Daily Mail to while away the minutes; not my usual choice. Was actually quite surprised to see even then quite so much coverage of, to my mind, an inappropriately detailed nature.

The story is too newsworthy rather than the opposite iyswim.

Wow what double standards there are on here. A woman suffering from stress forgets her baby in a car and the baby dies due to the severe heat and she receives nothing but sympathy. A man has some kind of episode which might have been brought on by stress and kills his daughter and he is condemned. could it be because he is a man perhaps?

Hipocrits!

That's 'hypocrites', FurReal. I always find dictionaries helpful when I don't know how to spell a word.

I actually didn't post on the one about the mother and the car but I think I would have posted lots of as well

Either situation is very sad. Two children have lost their lives. Whatever way you look at it, it's sad.

edam

it's just very very sad - sounds like he had undiagnosed mental health condition.

and I erad the mother did try and protect her daughter but imagine that it'd be hard to protect a child from a man suffering some sort of psychotic episode. tragic.

Fur real, your post is absolute nonsense. The woman whose baby died was the subject of condemnation as well as sympathy on the thread you mention, and on this thread there has been a lot of sympathy for the father and the whole sad situation.
In each case, we only know the facts as they have been reported in the media, and we interpret them very differently according to our own experience, beliefs and prejudices. ?Some people make a lot of assumptions which may or may not be true - but to say that everybody on these threads thinks in the same biased way is utter nonsense.

Was having a marmitey moment.

snort ..is that in the lexicon now?

should be, if it isn't!

I think that this should almost serve as a warning to us all. how many of us have partners who work all the hours, or how many of us work all the hours doing stressful jobs? at some point that stress could well catch up with any one of us, maybe not in such a horrific way but sometimes stress can build up anp and up until a person snaps.

and whether he had a million pound house is irelevant surely. how much money you earn doesn't equate to how stressed you are allowed to get surely?

ooh a bit lively this discussion, eh! I've landed straight from netmums so i thought maybe it would be different. anyone tell me what's better about the discussions here than netmums>?

I have no idea what teh discussion is like on Netmums so can't I can't make any comparisons.

Anyway, I know someone who developed schizophrenia following a nervous breakdown (the breakdown caused by stress at work). He was around 30 years old at the time and had the occasional violent episodes over a number of years. He was sectioned about 3 times in his life.

if hes been sectioned its because he is seriously mentally unwell , i doubt if he had any say in the matter at all . Regardless poor little girl

Can't believe the messages on here. Can't believe anyone could be taken in by such bullshit. Mental breakdown. It's the oldest trick in the book - pretend to be mental to get away with murder. He's obviously got a good lawyer advising him.

Yet another sorry example of the selfish rich knowing how to work the system to get away with murder. Literally.

I'd throw away the key.

Lucky you're not a judge then Bobbysmum. Because with an attitude like that you don't deserve to have any keys to throw.

"Pretend to be mental"...hmmm very sophisticated. Actually if he is deemed insane or otherwise unfit to stand trial, he could be in a secure facility for life anyway. Who knows.

None of this takes away from the appalling agony of that little girl, but let's not turn into a horde of braying mosters ourselves. None of us know many of the facts.

Come off it, you must know that pretending to be mentally ill is the oldest trick in the book.

I hardly think you could just suddenly develop a mental illness.

Yes but why pretend to be mentally ill when it could put you away for life anyway ?

We really don't know anything; that applies to me too.