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Alfie Evans 7

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StayingAtTamaras · 26/04/2018 23:25

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wormery · 28/04/2018 21:00

Of course balloons are bad for the environment and the money could have been better spent but it's his family and their supporters way of remembering little Alfie and other loved ones they have lost and hopefully brings them some comfort. My thoughts and prayers are with all the poorly children, their parents, families and friends wherever they are. Flowers

derxa · 28/04/2018 21:00

The thread will be deleted when full. Thank God.

Justaboy · 28/04/2018 21:05

Perhaps it might be appropriate to start a separate thread to discuss the effect of balloon releases on the environment

Well yes, helium is getting to be a rather rare element its too precious to waste.

However ;

Can't really blame them I suppose, theres a lot of emotion involved in the matter.

I expect come monday it will be almost forgotten like the case of Charile Gard.

But it should raise some debate as it will all sadley hapen again at some stage.

UrsulaPandress · 28/04/2018 21:05

The girls are raising money for Alder Hey. Not for their own parties.

SilverySurfer · 28/04/2018 21:06

TetleysSurpassesYorkshireTea
On the Alder Hey FB page, there are fundraising appeals for two little girls. The appeals are trying to raise £150 for each.

It must be so difficult for AH and the girls' parents to know how much has been donated to the Alfie Evans fund, whilst those two £150 appeals are nowhere near their target.

That is terrible. Is there another link to the page other than FB which I don't have?

I would like to donate.

Thanks

TetleysSurpassesYorkshireTea · 28/04/2018 21:09

@RunMummyRun68 That's a lovely idea. It was £150 for each of the girls they were asking for. Sadly I am not flush at the moment but will donate after payday!

I really hope that Tom, Kate and Alfie's wider family and friends are feeling able to grieve in peace tonight. Thoughts are with them.

RavishMinoux · 28/04/2018 21:16

@honeyroar

"Alltheprettyseahorses I dispair! Everyone is well aware a baby has died!! To say people are selfish because they're aware of the (huge) negative side of a balloon release is disgusting. Shame on you. I live in the country, I've known a few people who have had to have animals destroyed because they've eaten a bit of balloon. Is a painful and slow death for the animal if it's not found and put down. To think that this is ok because someone else is grieving is pretty thoughtless and low. You'd have to be a pretty awful person if you understand the effects of these balloons and still want to do it."

I agree with this. Our family pet, Bonnie, a border collie, died from ingesting a balloon she'd found in a hedgerow. I wouldn't want anyone else to lose a much loved pet through something so avoidable. There are many ways we can celebrate a life - or grieve for a loss - without balloons. It goes without saying that the death of Alfie Evans is heartbreaking and I am thinking about his mum who must be torn asunder by her loss.

TetleysSurpassesYorkshireTea · 28/04/2018 21:17

Oh @UrsulaPandress I totally got the wrong end of the stick then. Sorry!

Still, it might be nice to sponsor them if they are raising money for AH too?

Sorry to those who have asked me about it, for getting it wrong 😳

fragrancedirect · 28/04/2018 21:19

I hate it when people say it/he will be forgotten like Charlie Gard, I really don't think that is the case. Unless we had 100's of similar situations over the coming years but that said I think these two little boys will always be remembered especially as they are the first cases of their kind - hopefully better ways will be sought to not let things deteriorate to this extent again. Really thinking of KJ and TE tonight Sad

RavishMinoux · 28/04/2018 21:23

"There are already "Save Kyrah" posts all over fb. "

I'm sure that people versed in group psychology who are much, much, much wiser than me on such subjects would know the answer, but I am completely bamboozled and stumped by what seems like a loose cohort of folks on social media jumping from one horrible tragedy to the next horrible tragedy. I wonder why this is happening? Am I just reading too much into this, or is it some kind of mass-hysteria moment going on? Why would attention switch in the blink of an eye from this little to boy to yet another child in a perilous state of health?

Far more questions than answers.

Aridane · 28/04/2018 21:24

Some fucking vile posts on this thread.

IMBU · 28/04/2018 21:34

Yes balloon releases are harmful to the environment but I think people who are voicing their disapproval of it are being extremely insensitive. A baby has just lost his life. Hundreds of people have been drawn into his story and been deeply affected by it (not to mention his poor parents). Have a bit of compassion and choose a better time to preach about balloon releases. It's just so heart breaking - I can't imagine what his poor parents must be going through Sad

DoryNow · 28/04/2018 21:53

If everyone donates £2 Silvery it will soon add up.

TrippingTheVelvet · 28/04/2018 21:58

I'm really disappointed in how these threads have turned. At the start they were informative, thoughtful and mainly compassionate. Now it smacks of kicking people when they're down and have left me feeling slightly ashamed that I've been a part of them.

SilverySurfer · 28/04/2018 22:05

DoryNow
If everyone donates £2 Silvery it will soon add up.

I agree - do you have a link other than facebook?

bellabasset · 28/04/2018 22:08

RIP Alfie - you had parents who loved you so much and fought to do their best for you

I hope they can now grieve in peace.

MynameisJune · 28/04/2018 22:16

Can we just give up about the fucking balloons. No they aren’t great, yes they dangerous to the environment. No it wasn’t the very best way to commemorate him. But a family have just lost their not even 2 year old son.

They didn’t get to hear him speak, or see him crawl and walk. They will never get to send him off to school or even just chase him around the house trying to tickle him.

They’ve lost the whole path they thought their lives would take and all people can talk about is fucking balloons.

I’ve defended these threads, asked for them not to be removed. But I’m glad they’ll delete this one.

fragrancedirect · 28/04/2018 22:27

I agree, can't wait for this one to be consigned to the delete pile in fact I think it should go sooner rather than later and that from someone who defended all the other threads albeit under a different name.

FluffyPineapple · 28/04/2018 22:37

Of course balloons are bad for the environment and the money could have been better spent but it's his family and their supporters way of remembering little Alfie

Awh.... well that makes it all alright then...

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TrippingTheVelvet · 28/04/2018 22:47

Yes it is frigging alright Fluffy. When grieving for a baby, not 24 hours dead yet, it is entirely ok for them to not have been thinking about the impact of bloody balloons. I agreed entirely with the courts, am environmentally concious and have been hugely disapproving about the so called army and some of the family's behaviour but if I honestly thought that they would get some comfort from me releasing a balloon, I'd get a hundred of them. Seriously, give it a rest- you're coming across as a heartless bellend.

RavishMinoux · 28/04/2018 22:47

It's only my opinion, but there really seems to be a lot faux outrage going on here. Some of the responses remind me of the apocryphal tale of (the late telly & radio censor) Mary Whitehouse who used to watch x-rated material through half-closed fingers and then complain loudly about it.

There's an awful lot of stuff I read online that makes me cross or bothers me, or I disagree with or find offensive. I can't speak for anyone else, but I was taught to either rebut an argument or opinion with which I disagreed, or, if I was that bothered by it, to simply not engage with it and go somewhere else where the opinions of others mirrored my own. The thought of having a thread "shut down" simply because someone says something that upsets or repels me just seems to be a very controlling and peculiar thing to want to do.

The most sinister and manipulative element that keeps cropping up is that if people's opinions stray even very slightly off the tightly ordained agenda, those straying are accused of being "disrespectful" or lacking in compassion. For what it's worth, some people are able to hold more than one concept in their minds at once. For example, it's possible to have deep and authentic empathy with this little boy's fight, whilst finding things to praise and criticise in the people and the tempest that has swirled around him.

derxa · 28/04/2018 22:53

but there really seems to be a lot faux outrage going on here. No my outrage isn't 'faux'. I'm actually outraged.

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