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Thanks itscurtains. It reminds me actually of a little girl on the BBC2 hospital programme with bilateral pneumonia. She was lay on her tummy to help recover and when they moved her to her back her sats dropped to the 60s very quickly. She was fine in the end but scary moments for the family.

To be fair in all of the 7 threads and 40 pages per thread which is thousands of individual posts, I don't think.I saw the c word used with regard to the family. If so, very very scarcely as I have flowed them all.

Sorry, I just got upset thinking of how much all of this has affected everyone. I will leave the thread(s) now. I just wanted to say that User1471 your experience touched me deeply and I hope sharing what happened has helped you find some peace in some way. Your love for Phil shines through, you seem like such a lovely person.

And the lady from yesterday's thread, I can't remember her name but she'd been called names for switching off her child's life support - I have thought of you a lot and feel so angry on your behalf.

Lots of respect for other parents who have shared such moving stories of their lives. It's been so humbling to read.

I read something a few days ago - might have been on the Alder Hey page but can't remember, which said all of the children dealing with illnesses are as important and valuable as each other, and that "Every child is facing their own unique battle". It really struck a nerve and is something to remember.

Yes positioning is to help breathing. It's the same theory as laying a pregnant woman on one side only in the recovery position.
I know when I've had a cold and upset respiratory congestion laying on my front helps.

Thank you Silvery

Sorry that should say on left side. It's to do with not blocking a major artery with the baby resting on it as that can be fatal for both mother and child.

What a shambles. That poor boy, I hope his needs are not forgotten about in all this.

Just a question... I know there is a lot of speculation about the family hightailing to Italy the minute the child is released from AH (but I don't really see that happening realistically, but who knows?) Have they all got valid passports including the child? They need them to both exit and enter another country. Maybe they do.

Ophelia I'm pretty sure in one of TE's live feeds last week he said he had all their passports in his pocket

I am a bit speechless about the Polish contingent on the lawn.

What a nightmare this is for everyone close to it. I have no idea anymore how it will end.

I have empathy for anyone going through what must be literally hell on earth but that doesn't mean I think it's excusable to call other parents abhorrent names who are going through their own version of hell.

The depths of a man's grief may account for many things. But to use it to justify saying "abhorrent things" about other grieving parents ??

What is happening with the Polish detective, I don't understand why they are there.

The Polish arrival seems very sinister and considering TE kind of withdrew from the public today seems at odds with that - turning up 18 hours before making a statement about a big announcement. Seems very dramatic.

This is my last post on here but I wanted to add that I interpreted what TE said RE Myra Hindley differently. I thought he was referring to his particular situation i.e. when a parent believes their child has been misdiagnosed/is not as bad as Drs say rather than people who remove life support in different circumstances. I just wanted to make this point in case it helps anyone who felt upset about it.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Dr Ranj has been brilliant talking and tweeting about the facts of this case.

He’s also retweeted a fantastic thread about the entire case, and it explains everything perfectly.

STILL people are arguing. I am astounded by people TBH. Shit scared TBH that people don’t read.

I luffs Dr Ranj ❤️

And that's ok then, is it Sozzler? I'm sure the parents thus described are mightily relieved to hear it, not. Don't you think they will feel upset about it?

I just came on to say has anyone seen Dr Ranj and what he said this morning and his subsequent SM presence.

He's being praised for having the guts to speak out.

He's highlighting the facts very well.

Unfortunately I have neither FB nor Twitter so have not read any of what he has posted.

The polish patrol is very strange!? What are they planning on doing

Yes it was a good thread by Dr R

SilverySurfer I don't understand your comment. I was saying that I thought TE was referring to parents agreeing to the removal of life support when they believe their child has been misdiagnosed. I never said it was okay but I thought it may reassure those who thought he was talking about people who remove life support when they agree it is the right thing to be done.
I am actually disappointed with myself for being drawn into commenting on here. I find it incredibly inappropriate to be arguing and bickering over something so terribly sad.