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A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

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jampot · 05/05/2007 14:03

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

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PinkChick · 06/05/2007 19:18

so they actually know who the abducter is?, they say the have a susepect, but they dont 'HAVE' him/her?, just a photo fit, but then they say this person has been watching for days?, is this just speculation because she was taken when she was or have people seen someone hanging around?, cant really find out the fact in that?...Please be ok sweetheart..by DD has asked me if she can ask her teacher if they can pray for her when she gets abck to school on tuesday..i sadi i hope she doesnt have too by then and that Madeline is hme safe...everything crossed

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:19

exactly, tamum. Mrs Bulger said she couldn't bear all the lynch mobs and battering of the police vans etc, although she point blank hated the two boys. she said that by re-naming her child they took him from her twice, as i recall. and she just couldn't really see why her boy's death was everyone's business in the way it became, which is kinda where i came in, i suppose...

although i do take edam's point that this is different because the parents need the attention focussed on the story to get her back.

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:25

well i suppose i'm posting because people keep on chastising me for things i simply haven't done and opinions i simply do not hold, dogsbollox.

i do think that having read a book that specifically talks about the feelings of the mother of James Bulger i am interested in the appropriation of other people's grief as our own as a phenomenon. and at a smaller level i am arguing that perhaps one shouldn't go changing children's names on the basis of newspaper headlines as they've got form for this sort of thing and i know that it caused DB tremendous hurt.

i genuinely don't think i've posted a single thing that would hurt the mccann family, not a thing. but others have, i think. whether we agree on who's posted what might just be down to what NKF said, that some people find x distasteful and others y.

Londonmamma · 06/05/2007 19:32

I always try to blank out stories like this from my mind because they are so frightening and upsetting but I caught sight of a picture of the mum on one of the front pages today and it hit me how utterly desolate she must be feeling. Poor poor woman.

thedogsbollox · 06/05/2007 19:36

Sorry Aitch - I am being a grumblebum.

I suppose I just get angry when threads which should be a sign of how supportive mn can be, get turned into a battle ground.

I don't particularly like the hand wringing either but I do recognise that the feelings are genuine. It's almost patronising in my view to start picking over why people feel the way they do, on a topic like this.

I hope the poor child is found soon and that the parents can find some hope and peace amongst all of the angst.

In the meantime, I'll go and let my irritation off elsewhere

divamumplusbump · 06/05/2007 19:37

why ppl do this?
who said what?
im sure every single poster here wished the best and wanted the little girl back alive.
i cried my eyes out when see little girls picture, and im praying for her. hope her poor parents gets her back.
aitchtwo, i dont think you said something wrong. i hate when ppl jumps in and shout at ppl for no serious reason.

any news update?

FioFio · 06/05/2007 19:38

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mummy2olivia · 06/05/2007 19:41

I've searched but is there any news on THAT news report of an arrest?

CaptainUnderpants · 06/05/2007 19:44

No news on that report, in fact no news at all.

franch · 06/05/2007 19:46

FWIW, this site quotes the dad's Friends Reunited profile where he calls his daughter 'Maddie'. (I don't think much of the amateur detective tone of that site btw, but it came up as the top link when I was googling for news on Madeleine.)

We all react to these things in our own way, and IMO none is more valid than or superior to another. This is a 'developments' thread however so I won't post again unless I hear anything worth sharing.

quietmouse · 06/05/2007 19:47

Aitch - errm, what gives you the right to decide who is 'over identifying' ??

And what exactly do you mean by that? Why does it concern you?

I am genuinely confused here

CaptainUnderpants · 06/05/2007 19:52

Oh pleeeaase lets not be drawn into another heated debate /argument .

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:55

thanks dogsbollox and divamum (didn't know you were plus bump, congratulations).

you're going to have to make up your mind, quietmouse. do you want me to stop posting, like you told me earlier? or do you want me to answer, despite the fact that i've already explained what i think about fifty times on this thread? personally i think franch has the right idea about keeping schtum on a developments thread in the absence of any actual devlopments.

interesting about the FE post, franch, i wonder why the parents and family (in scotland, we're getting a lot of extra coverage of them up here by the looks of things) are calling her madeleine. i wonder if the cops have told them to stick to one name?

quietmouse · 06/05/2007 19:56

sorry.

I just find it really unfair that those of us who have been said to be 'over identifying' are being made to feel we are some how enjoying this or wallowing in it.

It is really very unfair.

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:56

happy to go along with your request, captain.

quietmouse · 06/05/2007 19:56

that was to CaptainUnderpants btw

homemama · 06/05/2007 19:56

I'm sorry, but I really have to say that I think it's a shocking intrusion for a journalist to be snooping and reproducing this father's blog from friends reunited.

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:57

find me where i said wallowing or enjoying, quietmouse. i'm being held responsible for things i've never said, here.

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 19:58

it's one of the first thigns a new journalist would do, homemama. that's why you should be careful about posting profiles anywhere. even here, despite the pseudonym.

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franch · 06/05/2007 19:59

(Sorry, I know I said I'd only post developments!)

We have shortened names for our DDs, which anyone and everyone is free to use. We alternate between the casual short names and the full ones. If I were talking about them publicly, though, or to people who didn't know them, I would naturally use their proper full names - seems quite normal to me - ?

CaptainUnderpants · 06/05/2007 20:00

Perhaps Maddie is a 'fanmily' name but is introdced to everyone else as Madeline, so if . Perhaps Madeline even calls herself Madeline and prefers that, hence why parents and family are using that name in press conferences in case someone stumbles across the gril and she says her name is 'Madeline' who knows - just thinking out loud.

We know that Maddie is short for Madeline but would someone who didn't speak English .

quietmouse · 06/05/2007 20:03

I really think these threads should be pulled

AitchTwoOh · 06/05/2007 20:03

possibly, franch. but if it was a diminuitive or pet name, it might make you feel awkward to have it splashed across the headlines. (it would me).
even the appropriation of 'holly and jessica' without their surnames seemed a little presumptious to me, the way they became one word, hollyandjessica. never jessica and holly, iykwim? these things happen, the press controls the story. it's grim, imo.

glassslipper · 06/05/2007 20:04

ggg - fwiw the london story was on the news in the south and also picked up on MN yesterday here but not much comment.

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