A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

[jampot]

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

er, i'm answering a post that was left for me and i'm answering it on the thread it was left on.
didn't notice any of you lot tell jampot off for squabbling despite her wilful misinterpretation of my post and extraordinary claims about her name being in any way similar to the Denise Bulger situation that i'd explained earlier...

This is mumsnet at its worst!

Uniting to sympathise is one thing- but picking over every detail is ridiculous. And squabbling over names??!!!

FFS- I'm shocked.

ggg - they were mentioned but only briefly
Save yourself and run from the Madeline threads - they just turn into arguments

Jesus, Aitch, go AND DO THE DISHES OR SOMETHING WOMAN!!

stand back from the computer.........................

ggg, I wondered why nothing has been said about that family too - very limited coverage in the press yet 3 children under 6 were directly affected , 2 of whom have died, very possibly through negligence or abuse. But that was in rather less glamorous South London perhaps

We referred to the squabbling as we were talking about recent developments ( or not ) quite civil and felt that the suqabbling had let the thread !

It wouldn't have mattered who posted a post like yours in the middle of it , they would have still got the same response .

Imagine if the poor mother is a MNer and someday reads some of the crap that's being posted on here - it is after all a public forum. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

' left the thread' not let.

Back to developments please .

Thank you Scootgrrrl
I said that days ago that her mum could be one of us
FGS

ggg, yes there doesn't seem to be much that I can find about these children found dead in South London, terrible news all round.

actually connie, not a bad idea... let's bring it back down to reality for a minute here. [deep breath]...

i'd asked a long time ago on this thread where the maddie had come from, precisely because of the Jamie Bulger thing. it was my first post on the entire subject, except for having siad 'how awful' or somesuch on the first one.

i was told by jampots that it was a newspaper headline and having explained to her (because i'm a journalist) that the name has probably been shortened to make it easier for headlines and also to make the child seem more vulnerable, afaik the conversation was closed.

it was jampots who criticised me for making a typo with her name and drew a parallel withthe fact that i'd been picky about the use of the name Maddie. that's all. i do see red about that, actually, because it means that she didn't get any point that i was making about Denise Bulger's experience which i feel is hugely pertinent to this situation. and it was a cheap, cheap shot under the circumstances.

but really, any pickiness was because i wanted to know if the press were reporting her as maddie rahter or if it was actually her name.

ah right where were we

I think Aitch's point about names is an extremely vaild one actually; she's showing sensitivity for the parents' feelings, not the reverse.

and there was a policeman shot dead this morning aswell

I have seen Maddy in the press, but I think her mum and dad have used her full name in their television plea.

Its all irrelevant, the only thing that matters is getting this little girl back in her parents arms.

Well, I do think it's a bit of a moot point tbh.

well if we REALLY all think that its so sentsitive mayeb we need to have no THREADs at all

I agree and I do understand the point you're making, Aitch.

Actually, I think Connie's suggestion is a good one for all of us. I'm off to make a cup of tea and give my children a huge cuddle.

I think the S London case is different, though, in that the police/family are not actively seeking publicity in order to save lives.

It's interesting the different things that people find insensitive or inappropriate. Some find the shortened name disrespectful, others dislike any discussion on child safety. So far - aside from crass drunk driving parallels - the posts that make me cringe are the ones that go something like this: "Ooh, I've just got back from the pub. Is there any news?"

Agree scootgrrl, even if the parents, their family or friends visited here some time later looking for support I'd be ashamed of some of what has been said on MN in the past few days.

well thanks, tamum, that is what i was aiming for... have you ever read Blake Morrison's As If? an amazing book about the bulger trial and the people involved.

anyway, moving on, yes... very interesting and tragic about the other family. and yes, i totally agree with whoever it was that said that by now the press would have been treating things Very Differently Indeed if the family had been wayne and waynetta types on the lash.

I think it was fairymum who said this and I agree too Aitch.

very valid point - unfortunately

I read quite a lot of it when it was serialised in the Sunday Times. It was extremely good and thought-provoking, and I remember the bit about Denise Bulger's feelings too. It's the idea that your child has been appropriated in some way I gues.

Perhaps so Tamum, but isn;t that 'identifying' with the parents? Which Aitch has implicitly derided others for doing.

I find it astonishing that Aitch and Wanna are still posting away on a thread in a rather prolific way, when they felt that others had little need to do so in that they were plundering the grief of others.

How this is any different is beyond me.