Deary me, did anybody read this piece about abortion by Caitlin Moran?

[emkana]

Dare I post this link

DS1 was very much wanted, but I remember rocking him when he was a baby, wishing he had an off switch and thinking " I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy" For that reason, and others I'm pro choice. My third pg wasn't planned, but I accepted it and now have the most amazing DD. I don't want any more children, don't have the time, energy, space or money for any more.I have a coil fitted, we use condoms, and DH is going to have a vasectamy. Surely if you think you may want more children in the future, you should accept any pregnancy.

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I found the kitchen worktop comment uncomfortable.

I am pro choice, but I do find it difficult to understand how having a child already could make the decision to terminate easier.

For me personally, the feeling I think would be similar to hunker - I would be thinking every day about the potential sibling my children would have had, and it would haunt me.

So MM, are you saying that women should wear a heavy weight of guilt on their shoulders as penance for an abortion, even if it was the 'best' choice?

She is right though, where can you go to express relief and thank god I did that emotions over abortion

people do always say, no one takes that decision easily...

I've said it to people FFS
Not always true

Well, I would find it hard to have an abortion now, but, I do have pangs of broodiness so I would say that this is because I do want to have another child. It certainly wouldnt go through such a basic thought process of 'curing' an illness now I have had children.

However, having my own family has certainly opened me up more to other peoples lives and circumstances, and made me generally more empathetic and understanding.

"Just as mothers must pretend that they love other people?s children, never wish to be violent, or get hog-whimperingly drunk, wear a cowboy hat and ride one of those bucking mechanized rodeo cows, so they must pretend that they are loving and protective of all life, however nascent or putative it might be."

Merrymarigold - excuse me if you already do, but you really should be getting paid for stuff like that. Genius. Move over Caitlin!

errr...am i being thick. caitlin wrote that.

Lizzer, merrymarigold was quoting Caitlin Moran I believe.

pmsl

Lizzer, it was Caitlin who said that. Take a look at the link.

LOL!

Lizzer likes the article too then

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I'm sober as a judge as well!! Blaming the pg hormones again

I DID read the article, honest.....

merrymarigold actually made it clear in her post that it was a quote.

Oh yeah and thanks for congrats Adorabelle...though v odd thread to accept them on

I know, I know I'm thick already!

PMSL at the shame of it all

Never mind lizzer

To go back to the article, I can't help thinking "why not consider adoption"?

Thanks Emkana, moving on.....

Come on though, who could go full term and give up their baby?

I don't know, it's all theoretical as luckily I'm not in that situation...

but where I am now I am thinking if I truly felt that I couldn't raise the child myself for whatever reason then I'd still rather he/she lived than be dead.

Maybe I'm selfish, but it would kill me to give up a baby. I'd rather bring up a baby in poverty, than give it up.

I read it a little while ago and was disgusted by her carefree attitude to abortion. I agree with chcolateface. If Caitlin Moron didn't want this child, then she shouldn't have become pregnant, simple. If I remember rightly, she just was too tired to do it all again!

I'm very pleased that it gave her something to write about that week though.

Congratulated you Lizzer cos was agreeing with your post & read in your post that you were pregnant. Would have given congrats to any other poster who wrote they were expecting, Sorry if it was a misplaced plesasantry.

I thnk the worktop statement is probably highly apt - and the only potential problem with it as a comment is that it does not subscribe to the disclaimer of 'traumatic difficulty' that Zoe williams identified. If you really really do not want to be pregnant and do not want to have a baby, then that is a much stronger feeling than dithering about something far less major in your life, like worktops.

I think the practicalities of mothering teach you even more that, ideally, children must be wanted, and raised by parents who want them - not who make martyred resentful, or exhausted heavy weather of it.

I know many people are deeply upset by their experience of abortion. Acknowledging those who are not does not belittle the pain they go through.