What do people think is most likely to happen with the irish/UK Border Part 2.

[cathyclown]

OK I took it upon myself in my arrogance. Nah, just enjoyed all the views whether we agreed or not, it has been very interesting.

So carry on folks. Link below to the original thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/a3096781-What-do-people-think-is-most-likely-to-happen-with-the-Irish-UK-border?msgid=73760649#73760649

And Scotland of course.

So what do we think of Martin Schulz's little speech? You all have to join the United States of Europe and if you don't, you'll be ejected from the EU.

Might be quite a big EFTA in a few years' time...

I don't know what he thinks he's doing though, here we are with a thread of hope that we might at least stay in the customs union/SM and he says something stupid like that that makes all the Brexiteers tweet I told you do. He obviously wants the UK out at all costs.

Sorry the Scotland comment was in reply to a post further up - that London and Oxford would like special status - and Scotland.

And I meant I told you So. Not Do.

Why on earth is him saying that a reason for "I told you so"?

That makes no sense. He's not even Chancellor of Germany

They're saying I told you so because they said that Remainers say they were voting for the status quo, but they weren't, because the EU want ever closer union and all that and he's just proven it by calling for a USE.

He was head of the EU parliament until recently

Yes, but he isn't any more . He isn't even Chancellor of Germany. Him saying anything doesn't prove anything, and the fact that Brexiters are saying it does is really clutching at straws.

I mean, it's almost as though they know they have no real arguments, don't you think?

The British government will never learn to do that. It’s why Education policy such a mess.

I wonder whether half the problem here is they can’t figure out who they are supposed to be appealing to and what will lose them most votes. They don’t seem to have figured out there is no good outcome for them.

What seems to be a staggering level of ignorance and incompetence isn’t helping though.

time to get rid of May and bring in some proper negotiators - line up the cabinet as follows:

PM Gove
Cabinet: Farage, Boris, Mogg, Patel, Davies, Raab, Grayling etc..let's put some spine back into this lily-white spineless liberal disgrace of a leadership

and Hammond has to be the first to go - utterly pathetic spineless lickpsittle to the EU

The Irish Times is reporting that a new text on the Brexit deal is being discussed this evening... fingers crossed

fingers crossed? what do you hope for here?

I hope someone shows it to Foster, Craic!

Great idea Sally. I think the UK should build a wall while they are at it; after all, they don't need the rest of the world, they have The Great British Empire.

As long as all the Brexiters stop using their grannies to get Irish passports that's fine by me

no need for a wall - customs checks at point of sale plus work permits to keep the immigrants in check

(The Sudeten Germans were solid Nazis who shared Hitler's pan-German objectives. They were not helplessly caught in the middle of anything.)

and WTF has that got to do with anything?

Read back Sally - you will see a few references to the Sudeten Germans.

Once again, I will remind you that nearly half of British people did not vote Brexit. Talk of British Empire nostalgia is weird—most people of my age, 53, have no memory of it and no desire to reincarnate it.

The Sudetenland reference came to mind when others were talking about Versailles because of people finding themselves, or regarding themselves, as being on the wrong side of a border. So Catholics in NI since Irish independence, potentially DUP if they think they’re being blended with the ROI. Or Serbs in Bosnia when Yugoslavia broke up, etc.

I certainly wasn’t intending any Nazi allusions.

Gove as PM

With Farage and Boris in the cabinet.

And Davis. Although he seems to be mentioned in the same sentence as the word ‘spine’

Boris, Gove and Farage. Really? That spineless self serving bunch are the very reason we are in this sorry mess.

scaremongering here in the torygraph