What do people think is most likely to happen with the irish/UK Border Part 2.

[cathyclown]

OK I took it upon myself in my arrogance. Nah, just enjoyed all the views whether we agreed or not, it has been very interesting.

So carry on folks. Link below to the original thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/a3096781-What-do-people-think-is-most-likely-to-happen-with-the-Irish-UK-border?msgid=73760649#73760649

Look up Norway's interraction with the EU. It works fine for them.

But they do have freedom of movement also. Sticking point for Brexiteers I think.

it would be great if Arlene Foster were to become PM of UK - she is far better than spinless sell-out May - in fact Arlene is the true defender of Brexit and the unity of the UK

cathy:

FOM, of course that is a sticking point and is the reason why we have Brexit in the first place, UK must have control of its borders otherwise its not sovereign

Martina888

Nope the grant would be in addition: an ongoing payment going forwards for (essentially SM market membership), the divorce bill (£50billion) is to cover ongoing liabilities (and for which UK may receive little/no direct benefit)

So it will be a hell of a long time before we’d break even, and even longer no doubt before the NHS will see a penny.

Are you happy with that outcome?

now might be a good time for May to consider resignation - let an adult take over!

Craic:

not at all, no it's an utterly absurd proposition - the 50 bill is ridiculous enough , but to add to it?? come now, no way that would get through Pariliament or the people

far better just to revert to WTO without a deal

far better just to revert to WTO without a deal

You do realise that we aren't currently part of the WTO as an individual country, and we will need to negotiate with them too...

UK must have control of its borders otherwise its not sovereign

That’s not what sovereignty is. sovereignty, in the context of our relationship with the EU is to have the unfettered ability for Parliament to make the laws it wants to, and for the Courts to interpret the laws absolutely.

Give it until Friday, will all be sorted. Along the lines of today. The postponement is choreographed. I think!

If it isn't there will be no movement to Phase 2. Hard Border, Mayhem and trouble ahead.....

And it is all over really.

martina888

You asked for objections to your Norway style solution, I merely pointed out a consequence of your suggestion. You didn’t think it through.

WTO rules are way better than signing up to a suicide EU 'deal'.

Norway deal could work if EU signed up to it - otherwise likely to be a border in NI, but could be managed ok, no the doom and gloom that the Remainers want

a good idea would be for ROI to leave EU as well

Norway style deal requires free movement of people too.

Martina, the UK has always had control of its borders. Why do you keep on saying it doesn't?

FOM would have to end, hence, Norway-'style' deal

A Norway style deal is not an option, either you sign up to the four freedoms, or none.

ROI will leave the EU when hell freezes over.

But I think you are trolling. I don't mind that at all, off you go. If you had made one sensible point I would be ok, but off you go.

My antenna is up though.

The ROI doesn’t want to leave the EU, so no, it’s not a good idea, it’s yet another example of the ill thought out ramblings of pent up little Britain-ers, desperate to believe they still have a say in the world.

'a good idea would be for ROI to leave EU as well'

A good idea for who exactly?

itsall@

so you keep saying, let's wait and see, the 4 pillars of divine right could become 3 or 3 and a half

"You can't stop them coming in"

Crikey

littlegrey:

hardly, but just like most countries we want to be soverein, not dictated to by Brussels

Who is “we” exactly? You don’t speak for me, you roaring numpty, with your thinly veiled racism and your frantic repetition of alleged “facts” and simple solutions to problems which don’t affect you in the slightest.

Bore away off and learn to spell.