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footballers giving up pay for nurses!

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saralou100 · 19/04/2007 09:45

started by west ham skipper, nigel reo-coker, premiership players have been asked to give up 1days pay in an appeal, mayday for nurses...

out of 556 premiership players, just 71 have signed up to this!

an average premiership wage is £12,300 per week... with some of the top clubs players earning up to £100,000 per week.

of the 4 top clubs (chelsea, liverpool, arsenal and man utd) only 4 players have signed up. chelsea and liverpool have no takers!

readigs entire squad have signed up.

their arrogance is something to be ahamed of!

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FlossALump · 19/04/2007 12:42

you get paid at the same rate as your old job. the idea being you have to stay in trust for x amount of years after you have been trained.

zippitippitoes · 19/04/2007 12:44

that's why I thought it sounded quite a good way to get a degree especially as she loves being a nurse too!

baffledbybaby · 19/04/2007 12:45

Flossalump
I thought and I can be corrected if i am wrong (and it looks as if i am) that a full pension could be obtained after 40 years service and be half highest pay (depending on full-time part-time work, opting in /out the superannuation career breaks and so on and so forth).
I know that it would be difficult if not impossible to achieve the maximum but would you want to swap what you have for say 15% more pay but having to make your own pension provision relying on perhaps the vagaries of the stock market?

Katy44 · 19/04/2007 12:47

Thanks Flossalump.
I work for a PCT, it's my only experience in the NHS so I like finding out how it works in other organisations!

mosschops - from what Anoah was saying it's not that she won't do those things, it's just that they are lower priority than other jobs at the time, ideally shouldn't there be someone who can do these things? Are they not the HCAs? It's the same in any job surely, my boss regularly expects me to do some of his tasks when he's working on something urgent that's also high priority?

Katy44 · 19/04/2007 12:48

baffledbybaby - I think they're about to change it from being final salary to average? Could be wrong though - I've only been working for the NHS for 3 years, I fully expect it to have comepletely changed by the time I come to claim a pension!

nailpolish · 19/04/2007 12:49

floss

i loved your wondrous lengthy post

FlossALump · 19/04/2007 12:50

yes it is going to be a whole of salary scheme. I have to say i don't know when you can get some of your retirement money, iysiwm. Its not something with our money atm I can ever imagine being able to do to retire early!

FlossALump · 19/04/2007 12:52

I have a DS watching cbeebies talk about crisps toast and beans NP so i'm feeling rather guilty about it now!

Taylormama · 19/04/2007 12:52

floss - i take my hat off to you - the work you do is mind boggling!!!! Blardy admin sounds like a PITA ...

nailpolish · 19/04/2007 12:54

LOL floss

my favourite part of the job is teaching students and junior staff

that and making beautiful neat care plans
i take such pride in them

mosschops30 · 19/04/2007 12:59

yes anoah made the point that you have to prioritise but you made the point that 'shouldnt hcas do that sort of thing' well yes but they have to prioritise too and sometimes you may only have one HCA to 20 patients or maybe not one at all so everyine has to be expected to 'muck in' as it were, most places are good at this but I have worked some wards where the qualified staff will happily sit down and drink tea whilst the HCA's are still washing patients at lunchtime which is wrong.

Anyway I dont know why I'm arguing about this its all about the money

Katy44 · 19/04/2007 13:09

Yep, you're right, my argument assumes that everyone is working with the best attitude - which of course isn't always going to be the case.

bringmeashrubbery · 19/04/2007 13:28

Haven't read all of thread but surely the point of this to highlight the shocking differences in pay. It's a campaign - I don't think it is meant that footballers should regularly contribute towards nurses pay, but it is a gesture to raise awareness. Pretty good idea imo.

noddyholder · 19/04/2007 13:32

I thought the footballers thing was a one off charitable gesture to do something positive and not a scheme to sort out nurses wages by fleecing footballers!I think it is the stuff they do over and above what they are paid for that deserves this extra boost no matter where it comes from.I know they are employed to do all the expected stuff on the wards but in a serious crisis situation they often go way beyond that and for me it got me through at times as I didn't like to constantly fall to bitd in front of my family and friends.To reward people like that with a one off 'gift'that may enable them to have a holiday or something is not insulting imo.And I think there are few footballers who would feel blackmailed or guilty about not doing it they are too busy shagging dollybirds

saralou100 · 19/04/2007 13:34

wow, this thread has moved and moved, whilst i was out!!

i'm gonna start out saying, that i regret the last line of my op, that was me being arrogant not them

i got so angry though that all you ever hear is negative stuff in the press (hardly a headline 'patient receives excellent care and goes home well'), then the one positive thing in the press, someone standing up and saying, you lot do a fab job and deserve better, goes unnoticed and no-one cares!
i also gotta say, i'm very sad that people have come on here saying what about shopkeepers, cleaners other people in low paid jobs, yes a valuable part of society, but they do not do things in their job role that i do, please do not compare, because when you are ill, do you want a a cleaner treating you or a trained knowledgable professional.. again this makes me feel, when i'm giving everything i have at work, that it's not worth it and that would make me a bad nurse!

floss your long post was beautiful! i had forgotten the organised chaos that is a shift...

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saralou100 · 19/04/2007 13:37

noddy and shrubbery tht is exactly what nigel reo-coker is trying to do, raise awareness!

his mum was a nurse, which inspird this

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bringmeashrubbery · 19/04/2007 13:40

well good for him - footballers and nurses are just 2 of the opposite ends of the scales - it could be pop stars and cleaners, or anything like that. Shows the relative importance we as a society place on those in the service industries/caring professions and those in the public eye.

saralou100 · 19/04/2007 13:40

what they wat to achieve

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StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 19/04/2007 14:52

I really don't think that its up to the footballers to bail us NHS workers out.

The gvernment needs to be sorting out the financial crisis the NHS is in so we can get a decent wage. I wouldn't want their money.

saralou100 · 19/04/2007 15:10

to me, the more i read about this, the less i actually think that it has to do with the money... it's more about the plight of the nurse! they are trying to raise awareness and financially support nurses who need the help, so we don't lose valuable much needed staff, part of the campaign is to get newly qualifieds jobs.... it recognises that the government is wasting money on training when their isn't the post at the end of it.... tax payers money... you and me!!

they are also not trying to bail out the government... more make the government notice through their positions as known footballers!!

as it says on the website, if anyone read it!!!

www.maydayfornurses.com

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bringmeashrubbery · 19/04/2007 15:13

agree sarahlou

saralou100 · 19/04/2007 15:15

that just throws back the good intentions

is no-one prepared to say we should have better?

so many people coming on saying 'i don't want their money' i don't need their money either... but someone might and theirs a bigger picture here i feel!!

but no-one wants to stan up and fight

lets roll over and let the government tickle our bellies

their screwing the nhs over, some footballers try to help, but you don't want that help

you say the nhs is in crisis... people who are trying o help, you don't want

i'm confused

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saralou100 · 19/04/2007 15:16
Angry
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saralou100 · 19/04/2007 15:17

read the website people before you comment

informed choice and all that

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bringmeashrubbery · 19/04/2007 15:18

Well I for one am impressed, particularly as footballers are usually such arseholes.