footballers giving up pay for nurses!

[saralou100]

started by west ham skipper, nigel reo-coker, premiership players have been asked to give up 1days pay in an appeal, mayday for nurses...

out of 556 premiership players, just 71 have signed up to this!

an average premiership wage is £12,300 per week... with some of the top clubs players earning up to £100,000 per week.

of the 4 top clubs (chelsea, liverpool, arsenal and man utd) only 4 players have signed up. chelsea and liverpool have no takers!

readigs entire squad have signed up.

their arrogance is something to be ahamed of!

ok so who gets to decide who's in financial hardship? the junior on 14 k who can't afford a deposit on a house? or the ward sister on 26 k who has loads of debt? Because what to one is financial hardship is just unfortunate to another and vice versa. who has that ultimate say?

thats your opinion, but damn it when i can't take my break and it's the only food source i have, i'm gonna eat it!!

when you say winging and taknig charity, i don't understand this?

nurses whinge a lot

yeah, actually i agree, some do

am i a whinger then?

np I was expecting to get demolished for saying that!

my sil is doing it at the moment and she does love nursing, but she could never ever hope to have got a university place for anything else if she studied for a million years and absolutely not got paid for it. She previously worked in a pie factory. She is now in a completely different place. And she was able to take a maths test numerous times in order to qualify for university entry. Nursing has changed her life round.

no i wouldnt say you are whinging

i know what its like not having breaks etc

its really hard

but look at doctors, they ahve sorted out their hours, they didnt sit on their arses whinging, they did something about it

it annoys me that nurses are all talk and no action

People give nurses chocolate because they are thanking them in a tangible way. I think it would be rude to refuse to accept a thank you.

I personally have never given nurses chocolates, because tins of shortbread go down much better.

I don't think public employees should be begging rich people for charity handouts. Let alone complaining when they don't get it. I think public employees should be paid proper wages out of the public purse, which is funded by the taxes of those rich people (and even more poorer ones).

Why don't you expend your energy on campaigning for THAT instead of trying to blackmail wealthy people with a high public profile?

lol colditz... they certainly do

in fact any sort of confectionary!!

even the odd healthy fruit basket!!

colditz, we are actually not allowed to accept gifts

lemon bonbons being the exception

but seriously, personally i dont like accepting charitable gifts for doing my job

police and firemen earn quite well (altough probably still not well enough, in case i offend anyone)... it just seems to be nurses and teachers who get the raw end of the deal

typically female jobs maybe ??

thats def a factor saralou

of course saralou.

if they were predominantly male jobs they would be MUCH more highly paid with better conditions etc etc
like the police

the police are cutting numbers of the actual police though in favour of civilian posts which are less well paid

gotta go out now

Although I think it's a nice gesture I think it's a bad idea - nurses are underpaid but it's not up to footballers to sort that out!
Do agree with the gifts though - as nursing is one of those jobs where you work closely with the public there are some times when a very good nurse can make all the difference (where a less wonderful one would be fine and get the job done). People give gifts to teachers, childminders etc... why is this different?
(I work for the NHS but not as a nurse)

im clearly a miserable old goat katy

I thought that token gifts (like consumables) were allowed? And it is gifts of 'value' that are not?

maybe it depends on the hospital colditz

My bil is in the police, and in the town he works there are generally only two officers out at night where 5 years ago there would be 8. They've cut back massively and yet those two officers are still expected to do the same job.

I wouldn't want that job for any money in the world - dealing with the dregs of society.

On the footballers thing, I think it's a bad idea, and here's why.

A few years ago, there was NO NHS provision for dental care in this town. Until this happened, you could see your doctor for a gum infection, and he would prescribe something, even though they are supposed to send you to the dentist. But as soon as the last NHS dentist went private, ALL the doctors refused to even discuss teeth and gums, they would send you to the nearest clinic 30 miles away.

Well, of course, the complaints piled up, and the NHS was forced to set up some NHS dentistry in this area. would they have bothered if the doctors had carried on seeing people with their gums? I doubt it very much. The doctors would still be doing it now.

If we allow the NHS to become a charity organisation, the government will devote less money, fewer resources and no thought at all to the NHS. We can't let that happen.

nailpolish - when I'm next in if we offer the nurse a biscuit and get it thrown in our face with a shrieked "STUFF your biscuit!", well, I'll know it's you
OTOH I know where you're coming from, my mum (again NHS) is doesn't accept anything (even biros and cheap desk calendars) from private companies as it could be misconstrued.

colditz - yes I agree. People have also said similar things about these school vouchers given out by supermarkets - apart from the fact that you have to collect about 100,000 to get anything (I have no idea if that's true), if schools are underfunded for equipment, it should be sorted out, not allowed to rely on this sort of scheme.

I used to work for a large company that prided itself on its charitable donations. One year the charity committee planned to give their funds to the local hospital, to fund a piece of equipment in the special care baby unit. They were told they couldn't do that, because if they gave money, then that amount of money would be removed from the budget for future years.

Going to University and qualifying as a nurse is one of the toughest things one can do. It was ten times harder than getting a degree in education. Nursing itself is a million times more stressful than teaching. I can only compare these two PROFESSIONS because they are the only two I have ever had. A friend of my in the USA says that her getting her nursing diploma was much harder than her previous Master's degree in English/Spanish.

Nurses have life and death responsibilty, we have to have have a high level understanding of math, science, pharmacology and shit hot critical thinking skills because there is no room for mistakes. No we don't have doctors around micromanaging everything and babysitting us. I often work 15 hours days without even being able to take a tea or toilet break because there is no one to cover my patients.

I was speaking to one of my colleagues the other day about why there is such a lack of respect for nurses in this country. We concluded that most people don't really understand how much knowledge and responsibility a nurse needs to have.

Many people can't really differentiate between a health care assistant and a carer and an actual nurse. They refer to all of us as "nurses" and this doesn't do my profession any good. To many people think a nurse just hands out pills, gives baths, and holds their patients hands. This, of course, isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

Check out this thread.

allnurses.com/forums/f50/how-hard-nursing-school-205218.html