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Grenfell Tower The Aftermath Thread SIX.

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HelenaDove · 05/07/2017 19:46

I thought i would take the oppurtunity to start thread six as thread five is now coming to an end. Thanks Thanks to all those lost in the fire their survivors families friends and volunteers.

Link to thread five which also includes links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2959251-London-Fire-Grenfell-Tower-thread-five?pg=1

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HelenaDove · 02/01/2018 00:47

HelenaDove Tue 02-Jan-18 00:42:16
thisisnorthkensington.wordpress.com/2018/01/01/crappy-new-year-from-the-rotten-borough-of-kensington-and-chelsea-and-the-tmo/

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Look at this – just look at it. Residents of 4, Hesketh Place are now trapped in their flats without any way out because some idiot has taken the door handle and both the council and the TMO have failed to respond.

Yes, despite several phone calls to the TMO made by distraught residents, it appears that they will only have to call 999 to have basic access in and out of their flats. People who watched Grenfell Tower burn just around the corner are trapped in their flats – this shouldn’t be happening.

Some have to go to work this morning and others have commitments that see them journeying back and forth to the property several times a day, but no matter as RBKC do not care remotely about anyone’s health, welfare or life, would rather cover their own backs and in fact twice planned to socially cleanse and eradicate them from the housing register on the sly and expel them from London anyway…….

(And as they are not on an “Estate” or part of an official recognised “residents association” who would have been any of the wiser to know?)"

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Fekko · 05/01/2018 17:39

I’m glad you are still here. I have been raging for about an hour now about the comments reportedly made by Jo (‘glamour model cum music journalist cum girlfriend yeuch of UKIP leader’ - so what would I expect?) Marley about the Grenfell (and Weinstein) victims. Fucking raging! I haven’t been this angry since Trump won in America.

I need to be talked down off the ceiling before I do myself a mischief.

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HelenaDove · 09/02/2018 01:39

HelenaDove Fri 09-Feb-18 00:37:53
www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15919667.Toryglen_resident_calls_under_fire_housing_association_for_help___but_gets_police_visit_instead/?ref=twtrec

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"A RESIDENT who contacted an under-fire housing association to ask for a workman was met by police instead.

It is the latest incident in a long-running saga that has pit residents and their housing association against one another.

As previously told in the Evening Times, energy saving works in Toryglen should have taken 12 weeks to carry out.

Now, 20 months later, workmen are still on site sorting out problems caused by the scheme, run by energy giant E-on at hundreds of Thistle Housing Association properties.

Resident Ian Paterson spotted that a cable containment box had burst and cables were hanging loose in his close.

He emailed Thistle HA to report the problem, expecting a workman to come out and fix the damage.

Instead, housing bosses called the police to accuse Mr Paterson of vandalism and two officers came to his door.

It is the second time Thistle's management have called police to Mr Paterson, having previously accused him of running a blog site detailing the issues with the botched works.

Mr Paterson described the move as a "poisonous attempt" on his character.

The energy works have turned into a three-way stooshie with residents of 608 properties stuck in the middle.

Using £8.5million of public money, including £3.4m of Scottish Government cash, E-on was supposed to have taken 12 weeks to carry out works such as rough casting, window upgrades and roof repairs in order to make homes more energy efficient.

Workers wracked up a catalogue of blunders, meaning some properties had to be visited on multiple occasions in order to undergo remedial works.

And residents, who have asked First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and council leader Susan Aitken for help, were left increasingly frustrated by the time delays and inconvenience.

In September last year E-on pulled all its staff off-site following a stand-up row between its staff and residents.

Each group pointed the finger at the other with locals claiming E.ON staff were verbally abusive towards them.

E.ON then claimed its workers felt under threat for residents.

There was also a deadlock between the energy firm and the housing association over payment, causing E.ON to appoint an independent adjudicator - which found in favour of the housing association.

The stalemate arose when a quantity surveyor appointed by Thistle would not sign off the works, so the association withheld a £3.4m payment to E-on.

At the time, our paper contacted E-on for comment but they refused to speak on the issue.

It is understood workmen are still on site sorting out snagging issues at properties.

Some residents have had as many as 13 completion dates for their homes but still have no end in sight.

A spokesperson from Thistle Housing Association said: “It is standard practice that any suspected acts of vandalism to our properties are reported to our community police team.

“It is our duty to ensure our residents live in a safe, well maintained community and we endeavour to do all we can to uphold our high standards throughout Toryglen.”

Glasgow City Council has said the local authority will commission an independent audit into the situation."

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www.heraldscotland.com/news/15366537.Repairs_scandal_housing_association_calls_police_on_whistleblowing_Toryglen_residents/

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"Ian Paterson, who has helped spearhead the residents’ campaign was visited by police who were called by the housing association in relation to a blog that has been started by residents and which details the failings of the works programme so far.

He said: “The blog is written by a collection of residents. But it shows how poor communications have become that police are being called to pensioners such as myself."

The second article i have linked was written nine days after Grenfell The Grenfell residents logged their ongoing problems in a blog too. Yet nine days after the tragedy in another part of the country another set of residents doing the same are treated with derision...........just nine days later.

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HelenaDove · 14/02/2018 17:59

8 months after Grenfell it would appear that "lessons still have to be learned" in the housing sector.

From fb.

"Sanctuary Scotland have said our property is safe. We have water dripping through a light socket which has now been isolated. Water coming from vent in bathroom and also had water coming in socket in kitchen. Yesterday I could smell burning and turns out or washing machine plug was melting and the socket was a little black too. Water yet again. We also found another kitchen socket is loose and we can’t turn off the plugs due to safety risk. Sanctuary claim it must be external and will send someone this week to check roof and gutters. No one has been yet to look. We have 2 children in here. We live in a first floor flat. We have contacted sanctuary Scotland, our local councillor and our MSP. Going to a lawyer next. Also have a home safety check tomorrow with the fire brigade. Had enough"

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jennymor123 · 18/02/2018 14:28

The official Inquiry and the associated Hackitt Review and Experts Panel have shown every sign of a cover-up. For example, Dame Judith Hackitt told the Select Committee that the present system is not fit for purpose; which is true but the people she's appointed to put things right are the same people responsible for the current system! At the same time, truly independent technical experts are being ignored and blocked from giving evidence. I believe this is because the current fire/buildings safety regime is so weak and biased towards business interests that if it was fully exposed, it could bring down entire industries and the odd government department or two. Which of course the establishment will never allow to happen.

Put it this way: there are hundreds of pieces of legislation, standards, codes of practice, etc, that need to be put right if we're ever to enjoy a truly consumer-oriented safety regime. Yet, under pressure from the Select Committee, Hackitt said that she planned to complete her review by spring this year! Her working group has not even met yet, so what's the likelihood of that deadline producing anything effective?

HelenaDove · 20/02/2018 17:07

"So after over a 2 and a half month wait and endless phone calls with sanctuary this is the dirty work off liberty and how much off a cowboy company they are, firstly our boiler decided to buckle under too much pressure just before Christmas and left our kitchen fully flooded. After waiting for over a month with no hot water or heating with our 2 year old daughter we was still waiting on a plastic part apparently to be ordered which could have took up to 10 working days... I could have picked this part up myself from B&Q. Once they actually got there lazy bums in gear after numerous phone calls and also getting the local MP involved they finally turned up to fit the part to fix the boiler, to only be told that the fella has had the part on his work van from day 1!! To also then be told that there was more serious problems with our boiler and the piping would need to be changed... after more numerous phone calls to find what the hell was going on we was told that they would need to take some off the partition wall out to replace the pipes behind it, we was happy for them to go ahead with this as we wanted our daughter to have a warm home again! nearly another 3 weeks later someone has decided to show up today to only do the most cowboy job ever
Putting 2 copper pipes right down our living room wall and not at all behind any wall as was the discussed plan. These pipes are right in arms reach off our 2 year old girl which are getting hotter by the minute, we was told that the pipers will not get any hotter than the radiators... BULLS#*T as I’ve just burnt myself on them. I also asked if there was any way that they could box this in or put any rap around it and I was told... “you will need to do that on your own behalf” we now Also have 2 gaping holes in the ceiling where he hasn’t correctly capped the holes and also left us with a gas safety warning certificate with no explanation to why. He was rude, arrogant. No respect to people’s belongings as he couldn’t even be bothered to put a shelf back up on the wall, which he took off in the first place. This is an absolute out rage and we have currently needed to move our furniture in the front room just too keep our 2 year old daughter safe from burning herself. Sort your act out!!! We have been in contact with higher up authorities about this and now apparently liberty gas have done there part and where no longer there problem! Don’t worry this has been taken further"

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jennymor123 · 25/02/2018 16:49

The All Party Parliamentary Fire Safety and Rescue Group met in the House of Lords on Monday and were very critical (rightly) of the fact the Hackitt Review is not including many if any independent experts, just the same old faces that got us into trouble in the first: placewww.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5421885/Fire-safety-experts-excluded-Grenfell-meetings.html

HelenaDove · 25/02/2018 20:49

And after Stormzys freestyle rap at the Brits it looks like the hatchet job has started.

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HelenaDove · 22/03/2018 23:45

My copy and paste in the post from 14 Feb at 17.59.....,

that tenant has now had a fire in her property.

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HelenaDove · 23/03/2018 13:42

posted on fb by the same tenant.

"Been having trouble with electrics in flat. 2 plugs previously melted, they blamed the appliances. water coming through light, tried to blame kids then said water coming from outside. Friday night, switched lamp and phone charger on, went checked kitchen, kids went loo came back and flames were up the wall"

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HelenaDove · 23/03/2018 13:44

And............

2 hrs · Cumbernauld
"Currently sat in citizens advice after Sanctuary Scotland’s surveyor and fire risk assessor threatened us with eviction as we had a house fire on Friday and 2 plugs melted last month. They claim we are a fire risk to the property and Sanctuary"

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IIlustriouslyIllogical · 28/03/2018 08:18

as we had a house fire on Friday and 2 plugs melted last month.

Either seriously unlucky or she's doing something wrong - overloading sockets etc...