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Grenfell Tower The Aftermath Thread SIX.

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HelenaDove · 05/07/2017 19:46

I thought i would take the oppurtunity to start thread six as thread five is now coming to an end. Thanks Thanks to all those lost in the fire their survivors families friends and volunteers.

Link to thread five which also includes links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2959251-London-Fire-Grenfell-Tower-thread-five?pg=1

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HelenaDove · 01/09/2017 02:29

"DCLG declined to identify authorities that may have once used or still have similar solutions in place, but confirmed that letters had been sent by the secretary of state to 10 councils that may be impacted. The department has said that consultations were ongoing with these authorities.

Tamara Finkelstein, director general of the DCLG-established Building Safety Programme, said that it was unclear whether recommended assessments or work were undertaken at the Ledbury Tower blocks. Ms Finkelstein said further scrutiny was therefore required at similar properties in the UK.

“In light of these findings from Southwark, you should ascertain whether buildings with large panel systems in your area also have piped gas. If they do, you should take action to ensure that these buildings can carry piped gas safely,” she said."

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HelenaDove · 04/09/2017 16:53

Lawyers acting for the family of one of the victims of the Grenfell Tower disaster have written to the prime minister, warning her that she may be in breach of key laws relating to the public inquiry.

They have given the prime minister until Thursday afternoon to respond to their concerns.

Hesham Rahman, 57, who lived on the top floor of Grenfell Tower, was identified using dental records and DNA. He suffered from diabetes and had difficulty using the stairs. An inquest into his death opened last week at Westminster coroner’s court, where coroner Fiona Wilcox heard that his death was consistent with the effects of fire.

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The letter to the prime minister expresses concern about her failure to abide by clauses in the Inquiries Act 2005 requiring her to announce membership of the panel advising the inquiry.

While the inquiry chair, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, who has been copied into the letter, has proposed appointing people whose experience extends to occupation and management of social housing and the administration of local government, as well as matters of a more technical scientific nature, there is no mention of panel members who reflect the religious and racial diversity of those who died in the fire and those who survived it.

The lawyers have also reminded the prime minister of her duty under the Equality Act 2010 – the public sector equality duty. This requires her to have “due regard to the need to eliminate discrimination, advance equality of opportunity and foster good relations between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and persons who do not share it”.

The letter states: “Given the context, and the background of a large number of the victims, we consider that you can only achieve this by appointing an ethnically and religiously diverse panel who have the relevant expertise to assist the chair and ensure public trust and confidence in the inquiry.”

It adds: “As you are aware, there has been notable criticism of the appointment of the chair to the inquiry. It is important that there is trust and confidence in the inquiry by the bereaved families, survivors and affected local residents, otherwise this could undermine the inquiry, its findings and any recommendations. Given the concerns already expressed by those affected we are sure that you would wish to avoid any further criticisms we ask that you appoint panel members who have the ability to reflect the diverse multi-faith community who will make up the majority of the core participants for the inquiry.”

The lawyers’ letter is supported by BME Lawyers 4 Grenfell, an umbrella organisation that includes leading British BME lawyers and community justice groups, backed by survivors, residents, the community and volunteers.

Peter Herbert OBE, from BME Lawyers 4 Grenfell, said: “We welcome this letter from a prominent firm acting for the family of Hesham Rahman who sadly perished in the Grenfell Tower fire. The letter has echoed the concerns of survivors, families and the communities about the failures to consult and the importance of ensuring trust and confidence in the Inquiry in order to achieve justice. We fully endorse and support its recommendations and urge the prime minister and the chair to the inquiry, Sir Martin-Moore Bick, to respond and act swiftly.

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HelenaDove · 22/09/2017 03:07

100 days since the fire.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/were-fed-up-being-down-11215830

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Kursk · 22/09/2017 03:37

Lucysky2017

Agreed, the government doesn't help the people, and can't be trusted with our taxes.

HelenaDove · 25/09/2017 16:24

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-foodbanks-emma_uk_59c8ee4ce4b06ddf45f93ca2

Grenfell survivors had to use food banks and a disabled survivor was left sitting in her own excrement with no water after being moved six times and being forgotten.

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HelenaDove · 25/09/2017 16:29

"Some of the stories are shocking,” said Dent Coad. “The council-run response centre is depressing and uninviting as well as run in an occasionally cavalier manner.

“On my first visit, I discovered that none of the volunteers were DBS checked. They were dealing with deeply traumatised and vulnerable people. They were helping to hand out cash. They were running a crèche.

“One of those volunteers that I had concerns about two months has finally been caught for an alleged fraud. There are other cases to come and it is down to the incompetence of the council and no coordination.”

She also claimed some survivors had been advised not to approach her for help as it would affect their chances of getting housing."

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HelenaDove · 29/09/2017 00:03

Newsnight film Grenfell Tower. The 21st floor.

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HelenaDove · 14/10/2017 15:43

Grenfell..................four months on.

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2017/oct/13/social-housing-grenfell-survivors-chaotic-government

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hmmwhatatodo · 04/11/2017 23:51

I’m interested to know if all of the victims families who would have lived abroad managed to get visas to come over and attend funeral Services/visit the site etc and get help with somewhere to stay for a while or not? I seem to remember there was an online petition for one of the victims who featured quite a lot in the news, for his parents to come over. Were they given adequate time over here to grieve?

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HelenaDove · 13/11/2017 17:56

Dispatches tonight on Channel 4 is about the HCA and its record on social housing.

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WhimsicalTart · 13/11/2017 19:55

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HangryHanderson · 19/11/2017 01:43

hello Helena.

I thought this was pertinent to your threads
www.theguardian.com/inequality/ng-interactive/2017/nov/18/life-shadow-grenfell-tower-next-door

HelenaDove · 22/11/2017 17:44

Thanks for the link Hangry Thanks

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HangryHanderson · 23/11/2017 00:02

And thank you for the link to the documentary. Bloody heartbreaking.
Well done for keeping this thread going - so many news items drop out the news and this one really mustn't. The victims and survivors (many of whom have PTSD) deserve better.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-42084695
The coroner has opened the last of the inquests and I was glad to see that Logan Gomes, who was stillborn as a result of lack of oxygen/cyanide poisoning, was listed - I remember a damned awful thread on here at the time contesting whether that should be the case.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/22/grenfell-tower-death-toll-of-71-unlikely-to-rise-as-last-inquests-open
Gone, not forgotten. Daffodil

HelenaDove · 23/11/2017 14:51

Many of the children still staying in hotels have been living on takeaway food for over 5 months and it is affecting their health.

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HelenaDove · 24/11/2017 15:59

I knew it wouldnt take long Ive been half expecting this.

www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/news/tough-new-rules-mobility-scooters-362201

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