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Grenfell Tower The Aftermath Thread SIX.

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HelenaDove · 05/07/2017 19:46

I thought i would take the oppurtunity to start thread six as thread five is now coming to an end. Thanks Thanks to all those lost in the fire their survivors families friends and volunteers.

Link to thread five which also includes links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2959251-London-Fire-Grenfell-Tower-thread-five?pg=1

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HelenaDove · 28/03/2018 19:11

same tenant

"We had a fire safety check back in February. Fire brigade said they were not happy that the plugs melting didn’t trip the electricity and to voice those concerns to sanctuary as they can’t make them do the repairs. The maintenance manager said and I quote “nothing wrong with the electrics, fire brigade don’t know what they are talking about. The wiring is fine”"

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StickyPlum77 · 29/03/2018 16:06

Did anyone watch the documentary last night? So awful. I've been following the threads but haven't commented until now.

HelenaDove · 29/03/2018 22:48

Yes i did Sticky did you watch the Reggie Yates one on Sunday.

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HelenaDove · 29/03/2018 22:59

Rachel Reeves calls for Government action after serious fire at high rise block in Bramley this week.

westleedsdispatch.com/rachel-reeves-poplar-court-government-action/

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HelenaDove · 29/03/2018 23:01

westleedsdispatch.com/poplars-fire-on-eighth-floor/

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HelenaDove · 29/03/2018 23:06

The Grenfell residents are really pissed off about the fact that the residents warned about the risk is not being covered in these documentaries.

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StickyPlum77 · 30/03/2018 04:48

It's so sad. I am already so sceptical about half that goes on within most authorities and this is still shocking. No I only watched the channel 5 one, is there another?

StickyPlum77 · 30/03/2018 04:51

Thank you for the links.

HelenaDove · 30/03/2018 15:31

The Reggie Yates one is Searching for Grenfells Lost Lives. Should still be on i player.

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DearMrDilkington · 01/05/2018 19:43

Did anyone watch Grenfell Tower: Minute By Minute on channel 5?

I recorded it the other week and have just started watching. Absolutely heartbreaking, those poor people.

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HelenaDove · 14/05/2018 17:05

Ronan Point .......................50 years on

www.insidehousing.co.uk/comment/ronan-point-50-years-on-the-worrying-legacy-of-a-disaster-56236

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HelenaDove · 21/05/2018 23:52

First in depth interview with Eddie Daffarn the author of the Grenfell blog.

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HelenaDove · 22/05/2018 13:56

14m ago 13:38

"While we wait for the inquiry to resume at 2pm, it’s worth highlighting a passage from Miriam Lamprell’s tribute to her daughter Debbie about the regeneration of Grenfell.

In her statement she talked about her concerns about Debbie housing before she moved in.

I was worried about her living in the bedsits. It really wasn’t appropriate for someone in her 30s. The conditions weren’t good and I used to badger her to put her name down with the council to get somewhere proper to live, somewhere safe and decent. Of course it feels terrible to have done that now, because she was given the flat in Grenfell.

Her mother added:

She loved her flat and she kept it lovely but the refurbishment became a nightmare. She had problems with the electricity, problems with the heating. She was very upset about having the boiler in the corridor right when you opened the front door. But I used to think at least when I go she’s got a roof over her head.

She would have me over to stay with her often for a week at at time. But recently as my legs got worse it was difficult to visit. The problems with the lifts made it not very nice to be in there when Debbie was at work, because you couldn’t get out easily"
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HelenaDove · 22/05/2018 14:59

Radio 4 You and Yours Whats changed since the Grenfell fire?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b39v0l

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RandomlyChosenName · 22/05/2018 22:10

I am shocked by the disregard shown to the families today showing them video footage without a warning:

"Bernard Richmond QC, who is leading the presentations by bereaved family members, said he was sorry a warning had not been read out before the film was shown.
He said it had been a busy day and a system the inquiry had put in place for warning of troubling material had failed before this particular video was shown."

To me this shows total disregard of people's feelings. I understand things go wrong, but "it's been a busy day.." just seems such a lame excuse.

All those lives. It's so terrible. And preventable.

HelenaDove · 22/05/2018 22:20

YY Randomly..................

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-tower-inquiry-video-played-warning_uk_5b043400e4b003dc7e46b8f2

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herethereandeverywhere · 22/05/2018 22:44

Helena thank you for continuing the threads - in such a concerned and respectful way.

I posted on the very early ones - about my fears that Grenfell would become like Hillsborough - with families gaslighted and gaslighted and disrespected and treated like they didn't matter for decades - treated like they were worthless, like the questions they had were worthless, treated like they were the liars and the troublemakers. And I hate to say it but I can see my fears playing out.

That treatment of the families today, showing that footage without warning - just like the treatment of families at the original Hillsborough inquests. Disrespected and treated like an afterthought.

And there are so many parallels; it's easy to 'other' victims when they're poor, when you can attach a bunch of negative stereotypes to them, when the powers that be have so much to lose that saving face and saving their own skin becomes the primary driver and truth, fairness, honesty, respect, justice fall away.

I cannot bear to read or watch the details of Grenfell. The horror of waking up that morning to the news that dozens had burnt to death, like caged animals, in full view of the wealthiest borough of the country appalled me. In the 21st century, in one of the richest countries in the world that was allowed to happen and the powers that be are making mealy-mouthed platitudes and fancy arguments to try to deflect from that sick fact.

And it will be like Hillsborough. It will be decades before someone eventually admits how these innocent lives were stolen from them by corporate greed and corporate neglect. It's shameful.