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Jeremy Corbyn at Glastonbury ugh

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LivingOnAnIsland · 24/06/2017 19:36

What a creep!

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lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:35

Corbyn was partly responsible because he refused to provide strong leadership on the issue. There are various sources that speak of the frustration of the leave (and Labour Leave) campaign with Corbyn on this. He was more or less invisible.
Ironically, one of the problems was that he refused to stand on platforms with Blair or Cameron (even though he would stand on platforms with Hamas)

MayhemAndRudderless · 24/06/2017 23:36

The Cons are sinking as a result of their far right fuck up of an election campaign, policies and party leader (and Prime Minister!)

This fuck up is of their own making and it's fucking brilliant!

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2017 23:36

We must make sure the Tories, the people who bank rolled Brexit and the gutter press are held accountable for leaving the EU.

explodingkittens · 24/06/2017 23:36

Sigh.

I simply said that given who the author was, it was unlikely to be a completely balanced view. I didn't say I wouldn't read it. You took that bone and gnawed it to death yourself.

However, any book that seriously tries to put the blame for the whole brexit debacle on one person, someone who wasn't even in power, is likely to have a very unbalanced agenda. And anyone with the barest minimum of critical thinking skills would be able to work that out.

But you're boring me now, tbh. Goodnight. Enjoy your bedtime reading.

riceuten · 24/06/2017 23:38

So, the politics are irrelevant, but 'he looks like a creep'. And people like this can vote...

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:38

when Corbyn was putting together his first shadow cabinet, in his leadership bid. He assured them of his support for the EU. They since strongly expressed their dissapointemnt that, come the referendum, he was unreachable.

MayhemAndRudderless · 24/06/2017 23:38

Actually, it's Corbyn who we should be thanking, that we won't be having a hard brexit after all.

user1471545174 · 24/06/2017 23:39

Ooh, Daily Fail, smellbellina that's so funny and original! Rhymes with Mail, right? And I'm the parrot? Grin

I don't read the Mail.

Unfortunately I've been around for a few decades now and have seen where this ends up, so my cynicism is coming through. What a surprise though, that someone who has played one note for the past 50 years is touted as the progressive voice for the young. I wish them joy of Jeremy.

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:40

did I say he put the whole blame on Corbyn? No. Because he doesn't. All I said was that Corbyn was part of the problem.But, as you refuse to read it on principle, that's irrevelent

MayhemAndRudderless · 24/06/2017 23:40

JC is not a creep. He's a visionary.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2017 23:41

What have Hamas got to do with Brexit? British governments had been meeting with the IRA for 30 years. It's how peace was finally achieved.

Corbyn was not part of Labour leave he campaigned to remain. The moans about Corbyn come from the blairite Plp, they have been silenced.

ShoesHaveSouls · 24/06/2017 23:41

lucydogz, a majority of Labour voters voted Remain - so what you're saying is ridiculous. It was the Bus Wot Won It. The Boris Bus.

It was actually funny to see them all backtracking away from the bus on June 24th last year... well, funny in a gallows humour type way. "Oh no, we didn't mean the NHS would actually get £350M a week, how could anyone possibly think that..."

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:43

I thought the majority of people in labour seats voted leave?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 24/06/2017 23:43

Fully agree - Corbyn is absolutely revolting. Someone upthread nailed it when they said he was like Svengali. I don't get it. It's like the emperor's new clothes. His lies and hypocrisy are beyond belief, his well-documented past actions are absolutely disgraceful, but apparently it's a smear to mention them. I always thought we were moral and truthful on the left but obviously I was wrong.

As for Corbyn's EU campaign - one of the times I saw him he didn't even mention the EU despite very heavy prompting from the MP with him. And yes, the childish fucker was too special to share a platform with Cameron but standing with with anti-Semitic Palestinian hijackers and terrorists like Leila Khaled seems to be fine. Corbyn talks to both sides, my arse. Never has, never will.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2017 23:44

Socialism and left wing politics have been vilified by the right and the gutter press for 30 years. People are now seeing through the neo liberal bull shit hence corbyns ability to move from the back to front bench

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:45

thay have been silenced interesting...and all you have to do is google to see what they said. and no, Corbyn wasn't in Labour Leave, but he might have well have been

ShoesHaveSouls · 24/06/2017 23:46

Lucydogz - a majority of labour voters voted Remain - 63% I think.

MayhemAndRudderless · 24/06/2017 23:47

Allthepretty FYI, Palestinians are Semitic.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2017 23:49

Corbyn won the Gandhi peace award in 2013.

pigeondujour · 24/06/2017 23:49

I'm absolutely loving watching the sheer terror of the right just now. I love Corbyn.

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:51

I'm sure you're right shoes, as I guess we're talking about different groups. If Corbyn had shown a strong lead on this, the traditional labour seats, which did vote out, would have probably gone the other way. IMO

ShoesHaveSouls · 24/06/2017 23:53

yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/

I'm wrong - 65% of Labour voters voted Remain. So to blame Corbyn for the Leave vote is just completely wrong.

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:53

this isn't the terrified right pigeon, at least I'm not, just someone who's questioning the new Messiah. Or isn't questioning allowed now?

lucydogz · 24/06/2017 23:54

but shoes what about what I said - that traditional labour seats generally voted out?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2017 23:55

Wasnt Corbyn unelectable at that point, as the right wing press told us? Corbyn has since been aided by May's appalling election campaign and people realising Brexit is a disaster.