Jeremy Corbyn at Glastonbury ugh

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What a creep!

What about it?

Hahaha who said not allowed, jaysus relax. You're right though, he is the messiah

Image from this breakdown of votes from the referendum

Who ran a poor campaign?
Given the smears against JC in the weeks up to the GE I tend to take what is said about him with a pinch of salt.

don't you think a stronger message from Labour would have swung those seats to remain? As they are traditional Labour seats?

Lucy, is Corbyn unelectable or the messiah? What is the right wing press telling you to think?

So Corbyn did well despite the all-powerful press?

I think the Leave Campaign not telling outright lies -because of Dominic "facts are for pussies" Cummings- might have led to a stronger Remain vote.

MayhemAndRudderless - go tell them that

GhostofFrankGrimes - no, he won the Gandhi International Peace Award from a tiny organisation run by 10 people, that has a few hundred members globally and depends on paypal donations. The Gandhi Peace Award is something entirely different.

Lucy, is Corbyn unelectable or the messiah? What is the right wing press telling you to think? sorry, what do you mean?

No, the gutter press won the Brexit vote. The gutter press vilified Corbyn. People have since seen through the bullshit hence the turnaround.

so you think Corbyn ran a good campaign in the referendum?

I mean detach from tabloid hyperbole.

He was invited. Most decent politicians actually show up to things they're invited to.

Nice to see him still engaging with the broader public after the general election. Bloody cheek of the man, not using his voting demographic to his own advantage for a few photo ops once every 5 years.

I'm not even sure most strongly traditional Labour seats did vote out - urban centres, traditional labour/libdem voters, London, Manchester, Liverpool, all voted in.

I don't think Corbyn needed to run a campaign, he supported remain. The campaign was the Tories, it was their referendum.

how do you know which paper I read? Seriously? FWIW it's the FT at the weekend . I've lost count of the number of left wingers who assume anyone who disagrees with them gets their thoughts from the Sun and the DM.

Are you seriously saying that it wasn't up to labour to campagn to stay in because the tories called the election?

Definitely not terrified right, just a bemused floating voter.

traditional labour seats voting out - [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/07/damian-green-interview-brexit-vote-labour-loyalty-england]

I don't think he ran a particularly good campaign actually - but that doesn't translate to him being responsible for the Leave majority. Ridiculous to suggest he is responsible, when the plain facts show that 65% of labour voters voted remain. I think maybe you should look a bit closer to the the right - Cameron also didn't run a very good campaign.

sorry
www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/07/damian-green-interview-brexit-vote-labour-loyalty-england

I'm saying Labour and imparticular Corbyn are not responsible for the Tories calling the referendum and hard right Tories supporting Brexit. Corbyn made it clear he supported remain, why should he clear up what amounted to an internal Tory party battle?

Lucydogz - only 35% of conservative voters voted Remain - don't you conclude that David Cameron is a little bit more responsible for this? He called the EU Ref, and ran the Remain campaign.

Are you seriously saying that it wasn't up to labour to campagn to stay in because the tories called the election?

Point is a bit moot though. They both campaigned. As well as other parties.

The Tory councillors stopped to talk to me, I did some digging after, the MP lived the other side of the bloody city, in a very nice big area. They didn't know the area at all. One just kept going on about how Jeremy corbyn is a career politician and got disgruntled when I pointed out TM has been in the job 20+ years and by his own logic, that'd make her a career politician too.

Friends of mine saw Corbyn speak passionately about the referendum and came away very impressed. According to him his campaign was very good. Admittedly they only saw him speak the once, but there were next to no press there and the only record after the event that it happened were Facebook and Twitter posts about it.
I think it was around the time of £350,000 a week to the NHS, so to be fair to media, they had bigger and more bullshit exciting fish to fry.