Celebrity Big Brother: is it really racist or 'just' bullying and bitchiness?

[LucyJones]

I'm really not sure where I stand. A lot of it just sems like school girl horridness

Pamina, I think Cleo is really quite frightened. She's a bit of a fragile person in reality. Quite childlike.

it's usually a negative vote - although the first vote in this series was a positive one (they get more money that way!)

I don't vote at all!

Let me consult my source re the nominations

i think this vote will deffo be to evict - I predict a landslide!

Ah missed it earlybird It seems to me quite sinister though, so ingrained, they don't even realise they're being vilely racist.

Oh that's interesting Aloha. I couldn't imagine sitting there at my age (younger than cleo) letting those silly little girls carry on like that. I wondered why she wasn't objecting.

They seem to have a strategy of having people in who have nothing to loose, Pete Burns, Jade, her mum, the WAG, people who don't have a career to start with and who are just trying to up their profile by any means must thinking any response is better than none.

jimjams, to be fair Jade did show an interest in Shilpa's home... when she asked if she lived in 'a house or a shack'!?!

Apparently they are postponing evictions until the furore has died down...now that is manipulation by C4 and Endemol.

The three have been reprimanded I think and they will try and be nice to Shilpa now...

if there was a gorilla coat in there

something would of been done about it

my source hasn't heard about evictions yet, and she is a good one so I guess they haven't done the nominations???

nothing will be done about it beacuse its racism and the media is nstituionally racist anyway, catch 22 really. they agree with it but have to pretend that they are monitoring the situation. the truth is just some black person being abused so who gives a shit.

It is racism yentil I agree, casual ignorant racism by people who would swear they were not racists, I'm not in a minority where i live now but have spent years in places where people stared at me in the street for looking different, even when they were being friendly sometimes it was offensive-how people spoke to me or about me......I remember thinking at the time how glad i was being from london where my mates were all different and my culture was a tolerant intergrated one.....hmmmmmmm
I would love to see Jade vanish from the public eye forever- after being booed by the world first!

the furore WON'T die down until those 3 are gone - they won't postpone evictions it's what the show is all about.

The method by which they evict may change though (to stop a lynching)

It is racism yentil I agree, casual ignorant racism by people who would swear they were not racists, I'm not in a minority where i live now but have spent years in places where people stared at me in the street for looking different, even when they were being friendly sometimes it was offensive-how people spoke to me or about me......I remember thinking at the time how glad i was being from london where my mates were all different and my culture was a tolerant intergrated one.....hmmmmmmm
I would love to see Jade vanish from the public eye forever- after being booed by the world first!

The fear of difference seems to be a British thing - I felt it when I worked in the East End of London. When I visited "Indiginous white Eastenders" (who are nothing like they are portrayed of Eastenders, frequently much less pleasant) I often felt the alarm bells going off as soon as i opened my mouth 9no local accent!).

but the Bangladeshi families - generally welcoming, interested in me as a person as well as a professional, often offering food and drinks.

Sadly Jade is just representative of that insular, "everybody ought to be like me" culture that causes racism, homophobia, and sexism.

Great point doormat! They'll intervene to confiscate a gorilla coat, but allow this dreadful/unacceptable behaviour to continue.

They're lucky that Shilpa isn't a more emotionally fragile person, or we'd really see her disintegrating under the abuse. Remember how Jo hyperventilated and had a panic attack a few nights ago due to
'stress'? Imagine how she'd be reacting if she was the target of all this nastiness!

It is on the BBC website that Shilpa and Jade are up for evicition

I disagree that C4 isn't intervening because 'it's just some black person'. Jodie was bullied and reacted much worse to it than the more centred and intelligent Shilpa, but nothing was done. Poor Shabbaz was bullied in the most appalling way primarily for being mentally ill, but again no intervention. I am sure there are many more instances of awful bullying. And C4 is taking action - as we saw with Danielle last night and more behind the scenes. Big Brother is a bullying format. If Jade doesn't get evicted to a chorus of boos then I'll eat my computer.

i would like Goody to be evicted to a chorus of boos even more than i'd like to see Aloha eat her computer.

A chorus of boos is all very well Aloha but it's simply not good enough. Like Doormat said, the police intervened when the issue of "animal cruelty" came up as it has criminal sanctions. Why is this any different?

And I see Jade Goody's representative has now said she's definitely "not racist" - when is everyone going to understand, it's not about how she, you and I interpret the behaviour. It's how the victim see it.

A chorus of boos is all very well Aloha but it's simply not good enough. Like Doormat said, the police intervened when the issue of "animal cruelty" came up as it has criminal sanctions. Why is this any different?

And I see Jade Goody's representative has now said she's definitely "not racist" - when is everyone going to understand, it's not about how she, you and I interpret the behaviour. It's how the victim see it.

A chorus of boos is all very well Aloha but it's simply not good enough. Like Doormat said, the police intervened when the issue of "animal cruelty" came up as it has criminal sanctions. Why is this any different?

And I see Jade Goody's representative has now said she's definitely "not racist" - when is everyone going to understand, it's not about how she, you and I interpret the behaviour. It's how the victim see it.

oh ffs - I'm not doing very well today - sorry

I have to say that I can't stand BB although I occasionally get drawn into it simply through morbid fascination. I haven't seen this series at all, but have read all the stuff in the media. I think it's not that far removed in some ways from the romans watching gladiators fighting to the death. I would love to see BB get its proverbial backside sued off or closed down for good. I don't agree with what they do in terms of putting vulnerable and mentally stable people into a stressful situation and then broadcasting the results in the name of "entertainment". It's exploitation of the worst kind in my opinion.