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AFTER THE PIT BULL THREAD ADVICE NEEDED DESPERATLY...

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kittylette · 04/01/2007 15:50

i need advice,

BIL and SIL have a rotweiller/alsation cross, its huge,

theyve just had a baby son

weve told them the dangers (shouldnt have to really) but they sent a pic of the tiny baby lay across the front paws of the dog

i have two sons and havent visted them for 2 years because i wont allow them near the dog

in my pre-kids days the dog attacked me, tried to bite me BIL had to physically beat the dog to subdue it away from me,

its not a nice dog

im fear for the safety of my nephew

should i phone someone?

social serices?

i dont want to but how would i feel if something happened?

when you first meet the dog, you have to sit low down on the floor with your arms crossed and not give it eye contact

surely thats not right?

sjould a dog like that be near a bay?

they say is soft as anytning, its a big baby

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lulumama · 07/01/2007 22:39

tbh, if they love the dog more than a flesh and blood relative, then that is there look out and they cannot see fiurther than the end of their nose

you were worried enough to post, you are not overreacting, you have been endorsed by everyone on her, noone has said you are going OTT.......

controlfreaky2 · 07/01/2007 22:40

..... but if they wont then you will have to. someone has to do what is best for this baby.... if his parents won't then it's down to someone else....
i'm not saying it's easy for you but you know that everyone on this thread cant be wrong!

MamazonAKAfatty · 07/01/2007 22:40

My sister is a drug dealer, she keeps leaving ecstacy pills in front of my 2 yera odl neice.

i have told her that my niece my find a pill and eat it but she just wont listen. her son was already in hospital for a week because he found some weed and was chewing it..she just doesn't learn.

i'd love to do something but i just can't..she woudl never speak to me again.

Kitty - what would your advice be?

AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 07/01/2007 22:40

if everyone's told them can you get all those people together in one place to speak to them? almost like an intervention?

lulumama · 07/01/2007 22:41

that is a good idea aitch..as mamazon said..harder to ignore the voice of many

hunkermunker · 07/01/2007 22:41

Kitty, you're not thinking clearly.

It is at least as bad as you've described. It will get worse not better as your nephew grows up - he'll not understand he can't pat the dog, kiss it on the nose, pull its tail - and he is likely to die, horribly, if he does that.

I can't put it more plainly - and if you can ignore that - Kittylette, I'm not trying to upset you, but I'm desperately worried for this little boy and I feel if I can't get through to you and something happens to him, I will also be partly responsible.

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kittylette · 07/01/2007 22:50

id loose my SIL, whos my best friend

my DF would loose his only brother

our sons will loose theyre only cousin

we will loose our MIL

to something that may happen -i cant do it - we will be segregated from EVERYTHING -because they wont do this themselves, thats not fair - why should we cause the problems

i just dont want this on my shoulders, i dont

its not my responsibility

im in tears here

why am i having to do this? i have to talk to my DF again

ill get him to ring BIL

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AitchTwoOhOhSeven · 07/01/2007 22:53

is your sil really as keen on the dog as her husband is?

controlfreaky2 · 07/01/2007 22:54

i thought the idea of an "intervention" was a good one... and it would make it not just down to you "causing trouble". am i right that your df / mil agree their behaviour re dog / baby is dangerous? then it's these people you should talk to re utter seriousness of all this in first instance, show THEM this thread if you think it would help. if you can get them and any other friends / family on board then you can stage meeting with bil and all confront with your serious concerns....

hunkermunker · 07/01/2007 22:54

Can you get your DF to read this thread?

hunkermunker · 07/01/2007 22:55

And if you show anyone who's not dog-mad and loopy that photograph of your nephew across this dog's paws, they'll be on your side, I'm sure.

Legacy · 07/01/2007 22:55

Is the picture still up somewhere, or has it been removed?

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kittylette · 07/01/2007 22:55

they both LOVE the dog - so much so that after her c-section she had her DF bring the dog to the hospital so she could see him, out of the open window -

she was only in 4 days

i will show DF this thread when he comes down from his shower

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lulumama · 07/01/2007 22:56

it is on your shoulders now , kitty..as you have started the ball rolling......but everyone here is supporting you

and the outcome of a baby being mauled is worse than a family row? surely, they would not cut off all the contaft with you guys if your nephews best interests at heart

lulumama · 07/01/2007 22:56

it is on your shoulders now , kitty..as you have started the ball rolling......but everyone here is supporting you

and the outcome of a baby being mauled is worse than a family row? surely, they would not cut off all the contaft with you guys if your nephews best interests at heart

MamazonAKAfatty · 07/01/2007 22:56

Kitty we are not denying that this is an awful situation for you to have been placed in.

But quite frankly if they are too blind to see the danger then what sort of parents are they.

Yes they will be angry that you have reported them, but slowly in time they will come to realise you acted like a responsible adult. you only did what was right for their child....when they later find out the dog went for a kennel hand or something they will be gratefull to you.

If you would like to show them just how dangerous this dog is around their baby, go and find one of those baby annabel things..you know the dolly's that make the crying googling noises.

tie some cotton arund it arm and leg so that you can pull at it to make it move. plavce it on the floor in front of the dog and turn it on. every now and then make its arm or leg move.

the dog will more than likely rip the dolly to pieces. That is precisely what it would do to that baby.

This is the test that Battersea dogs home do on all the new arrivals to judge how agressive they are.

If after seeing that they are still denying that their son is at harm then I would begyou to give me their details. I am a social worker and i am truely concerned for that babies welfare.

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kittylette · 07/01/2007 22:56

i removed the pic as its not mine to post permenatntly IYKWIM

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hunkermunker · 07/01/2007 23:00

I feel quite, quite sick reading that about the doll, Fatty. I also feel quite sure that this dog would do as you describe.

I have an 11mo and a 2.9yo. The 2.9yo likes dogs so much he tries to kiss their noses, given half a chance. Luckily the first time he did that it was with a soppy Labrador (but I still didn't let him do it again, because I don't think it's advisable).

Kittylette, we're not scaremongering - we're genuinely very, very concerned.

thelittleElf · 07/01/2007 23:01

OMG you have the ability here to stop something terrible happening to your nephew. Someone on here has lost their darling daughter this week, and she couldn't do anything to prevent that ....you have the power to stop another little life being lost......you have to act!

MamazonAKAfatty · 07/01/2007 23:06

I had to do a traingn course with a dog shelter because for a short while we were foster carers for them. they showed us a video of a border collie with a doll.

they showed the video of the dog with an adult playing around quite happily and you would have thought he would be a lovely family pet...then you see what he does to the doll. it really is stomach churning.

that video has altered the way i allow my children to behave around dogs. as i have said i am a huge dog lover but i also realise that little toddlers can be very irritating and a dogs natural reaction to irritations is to bite.

thelittleElf - how very and true

3Ddonut · 07/01/2007 23:06

I haven't read the entire post, a bit at the beginning and a bit now, but can't you report them annoyonmously (sp?) please????

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kittylette · 07/01/2007 23:07

please can you help me think of something to say?

i have to say something to them - but i NEED to try and keep our relationship

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WideWebWitch · 07/01/2007 23:08

Sorry, you really do have a responsibility here to report them. Imagine how you will feel if you don't and something happens.

lulumama · 07/01/2007 23:08

what more can you say except you are worried that the life of a child is at serious risk?

WideWebWitch · 07/01/2007 23:08

Do it anonymously, you can't be the only person in the world who knows they have a dog AND a baby.

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