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is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

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claig · 02/03/2016 09:27

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

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Lweji · 14/03/2016 10:59

Hecklers at other candidates:
Hillary
Hillary 2
The ones at Bernie's
Or at Cruz's
which happen all the time

I suppose they are just weak for not punching them, or inciting anyone else to do it.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/03/2016 11:12

Craig, when you repeat stupid phrases such as 'Little Marco' I'm afraid I instantly stop reading. Sorry.

'Rent-a-mob' is a term often used by the people who are being protested against once numbers of protesters grow.

I go on protests sometimes. Often very large ones. Just because I have chosen to go along at the same time as many other people doesn't mean that we have become 'rent-a-mob'. It means we have chosen to stand together to demonstrate against something that is important to us all.

claig · 14/03/2016 11:24

Trump's ralliea are interrupted much more than the ones above. it is continuous because an organised and trained group of disruptors is sent in to Trump rallies. He is currently campaigning in Ohio against Establishment Kasich who is the Governor of Ohio and the Establishment's last hope who the polls suggest will take Ohio instead of Trump.

Kasich, being Establishment, supports the free trade deals like NAFTA and TPP etc. Trump told the rally that it was interesting that everytime Trump started to talk about trade and the free trade deals, the trained protestors interrupted the rally at that point. It is coordinated, they are terrified that Trump wil beat Establishment Kasich in Ohio because that is the Establishment's last line of defence. The trained activists are part of a coordinated attempt to stop Trump getting the message out to the people. The police had to use pepper spray on the crowds of agitators in Kansas outside the event.

The system and its paid-for stooges are desperate to stop Trump and Lyin' Ted and Little Marco, along with all of the grandees and bigwigs in the Establishment, blame Trump for the disturbances rather than the left wing agitators who have injured police officers in their violent protest to shut down Trump's free speech.

But Trump enjoys having protestors at his rallies. Trump's cry of "Get 'em out" is now almost as famous as his "You're fired" line on the Apprentice. There are youtube videos of compilations of "Get 'em outta here", "Get 'em the hell out" and all variations of the now world famous line "Get 'em out". Trump always says "isn't this fun? isn't a Trumo rally fun? It would be boring without the protestors" and the crowd loves it.

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claig · 14/03/2016 11:26

'when you repeat stupid phrases such as 'Little Marco' I'm afraid I instantly stop reading.'

I say that because that is what Trump calls him along with Lyin' Ted for Ted Cruz.

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NotDavidTennant · 14/03/2016 11:35

Calling the other candidates names is a bit pathetic, isn't it?

claig · 14/03/2016 11:42

'Calling the other candidates names is a bit pathetic, isn't it?'

Not really because the crowds love it and laugh because they think the same of the political elite and Trump gives voice to what the people think of them. It is fun, it is political theatre and it is why straight-talking Trump is so popular.

As Judge Jeanine Pirro said, it is part of the tradition of American politics and far, far worse names and insults have been called by former famous American Presidents over the centuries during election contests, things which couldn't be printed or said on TV.

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claig · 14/03/2016 11:45

The system wants to stifle free speech, dictate what Trump can say, close down his rallies and stop him speaking to tens and tens of thousands of people because they are petrified of the way that he has energised the American people to come out and vote against the Esatblishment candidates.

If the people think that Trumop is "pathetic" for calling Ted Cruz and Rubio names, then they won't vote for him. Let Trump speak and let the people vote.

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NotDavidTennant · 14/03/2016 11:48

So what? Crowds will laugh at someone slipping on a banana skin, it doesn't stop it from being undignified and pathetic.

NotDavidTennant · 14/03/2016 11:50

If the people think that Trumop is "pathetic" for calling Ted Cruz and Rubio names, then they won't vote for him.

Well yes, come November that is exactly what is going to happen.

NotDavidTennant · 14/03/2016 11:54

As a man truly worth of the office of President once said:

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

SenecaFalls · 14/03/2016 12:00

'Rent-a-mob' is a term often used by the people who are being protested against once numbers of protesters grow.

Exactly. This demonstration was in Chicago, which has a long history of community and political organizing. Remember when Sarah Palin and her ilk used to attack Obama for being a community organizer in Chicago? Trump chose to have this rally on a college campus, a college with a very racially diverse student body near a neighborhood with a large Mexican-American population. It was organized, certainly. But it was no rent-a-mob.

claig · 14/03/2016 12:00

I trsust the people to have common sense and the freedom to laugh at what they want to laugh at. Trump destroyed Establishment Jeb Bush simply by calling him "low energy" and sarcastically said "I know, Jeb you're a tough guy, very tough" and the people laughed because Trump had hit the nail on the head and expressed what they thought.Trump is taking down the Establishment and each one of its stooges one step at a time and the people are laughing and cheering and shouting "USA USA USA" at Trump rallies as they believe that Trump might actually beat them and work for the people.

People only laugh if Trump says something true because they recognise the truth and laughter is cathartic. That is why people queue overnight to hear Trump speak, that is why they take their babies along decked out in Trump gear, that is why people wear combover wigs at his events. They love it, they are having fun and they are laughing at the Establishment and all its attempts to control them and tell them what to do and who to vote for.

Trump has liberated the American people, he has made them laugh at their political elite, he has voiced what they think of them and that is why his rallies are the largest political meetings in history, and that is why people tune in to the television debates in their tens of millions, more than ever before, and that is why the system wants to disrupt Trump's speeches and stop Trump getting his message out to the people.

The whole world is watching Trump, Blair and the cronies are in meltdown. As Trump says "this is a movement and the whole world is talking about it, and it is not me, it is you" the people.

As a French lawmaker rightly recognised

"On Wednesday, Laurent Wauquiez, a French conservative lawmaker, said Trump’s popularity is revealing of a general trend that has traversed the Atlantic.

“What it shows is that in democracies today, citizens no longer want people to tell them what they should think, what they should say. That’s what makes Donald Trump seductive,” Wauquiez told France 2 Television."

And it is that awakening of the people that frightens the political class worldwide and explains why they are all united against Trump.

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claig · 14/03/2016 12:02

'Well yes, come November that is exactly what is going to happen.'

Then that will be fine because that will be the will of the people. That is the most important thing in a democracy, that the people get the candidate they want.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/03/2016 12:08

They are uniting against Trump because he is a racist, anti-muslim, pro-violence bully.

I don't say this lightly at all, because I know it is very emotive and something to be only said with the greatest of careful thought.. Hitler was a populist man. He too was xenophobic and anti-establishment. Populist does not equal good candidate.

claig · 14/03/2016 12:14

'They are uniting against Trump because he is a racist, anti-muslim, pro-violence bully.'

That is what they tell the people but the people know they are lying. They are uniting against Trump because he will end their global free tarde deals, he will end their global ssytem, he will end globalism, put America and the American people first and bring jobs back to America. As REM sang in the song they refused to allow Trump to use at his rallies "it's the end of the world as we know it". It's the end of their world, the end of their system and they are petrified because their billionaire bosses don't like it.

Don't forget it is the same world elite who does business with Saudi Arabia where women are not allowed to drive and where they can be whipped and worse for adultery and beheaded in public for things such as adultery. They fear Trump because he will end the globalist system and change the world.

'Populist does not equal good candidate'

Absolutely, but it doesn't always mean bad either.

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claig · 14/03/2016 12:23

The European political class are talking about Turkey entering the European Union - Turkey where newspapers are shut down because they criticise the government and journalists are arrested for insulting the President.

The political class are hypocrites and liars, they fear Trump because he exposes their lies and mocks them to their faces and the people laugh along with Trump.

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Lweji · 14/03/2016 12:29

Which of those things you said he will do are jokes, lies to get elected, or actual promises?

claig · 14/03/2016 12:30

Trump calls Ted Cruz, Lyin' Ted, he says he holds up the Bible in one hand and then he puts it down and starts lying and the people laugh.

Trump has transformed US politics, he has smashed through the lies and hypocrisy and challenged all of the Establishment's sacred cows and that is why so many people support Trump as they watch the Establishment clamber to try and save themselves from ridicule. And that is why the Establishment and its media are all against Trump shouting "how awful, what a bully".

Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's former Secretary of Labor, wrote

"the establishment is dying"

What is happening in America is historic, the world has seen nothing like it and it will change the entire world.

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claig · 14/03/2016 12:31

'Which of those things you said he will do are jokes, lies to get elected, or actual promises?'

I don't know, no one knows. Blair and the cronies hope he won't do them, We will have to wait and see what happens.

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wiltingfast · 14/03/2016 13:01

So how can you be comfortable recommending him when you have just admitted you actually do not know which of the things he says he will do are

"jokes,

lies to get elected,

or actual promises?"

Want2bSupermum · 14/03/2016 13:02

I used the term 'rent a mob' because when asked they couldn't define why they were there. To me it's simple why they are there but if you can't articulate why you are protesting then you shouldn't be protesting.

I have zero problems with anyone protesting a candidate. It's part of the process but I have an issue with the way the media have covered the Trump campaign. First of all, the protesters ejected from other campaign rally's should be given equal coverage wth equal tone. Also, the media should not be reporting on half truths that Trump has said. Some of what Trump has said is spot on. A lot is off in left field. I have a real problem with the cut down sound bites used by the media. It's inflamatory and divisive. What is reported in the UK media is a fraction of what is reported here in the US. If you want a real shock read coverage from the Russian media outlets.

claig · 14/03/2016 13:11

'So how can you be comfortable recommending him when you have just admitted you actually do not know which of the things he says he will'

Because I believe that he is for real and will try to do them and if he achieves half of them it will be a great thing. Trump is far better than the rest of them. Blair is anxious about Trump and that is good enough for me.

I agree with the Cuban-American in Florida that Trump will get things done, he says "politicians are all talk, no action" and Trump is nothing like any of them.

"I just want a change. I'm tired of the politicians promising everything and nothing happens," said Tejera, a police officer. Though Cuban-American, he said the Cuban ties of Rubio and GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas meant little to him."

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/03/2016 13:12

Hard to use equal tone when the eviction of protesters is done in a very dissimilar manner in the other rallies. In fact, can you link to any?

As I'm unwell at present I have a lot more time than usual, so I've been watching the rallies and the interviews in full. I've actually watched very little media coverage. So I'm not watching sound bites, I'm watching the scary real thing.

wiltingfast · 14/03/2016 13:17

You believe he is for real...

But you just said you cannot tell what is lies and what is not. How can that possibly equate to being real? What is he being "real" about? you don't know.

"He will get things done"...

But how do you know what is he going get done when you cannot tell what is lies and what is truth?

Lweji · 14/03/2016 13:21

Because I believe that he is for real and will try to do them and if he achieves half of them it will be a great thing. Trump is far better than the rest of them

What actual evidence do you have for that?

And don't write "because he says". Or because others are afraid of him.
It doesn't make him any good by default.

From where I stand he is just like any other politician.
Promising what he thinks the electorate wants to hear.

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