is it really possible that Donald trump could be president????? [Part 2]

[claig]

From now on the race becomes winner take all. If Trump wins Florida on March 15, it is probably all over.

'The Republican Party now has 14 days to stop Trump'

www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11144812/super-tuesday-results-donald-trump-wins

Trump cancels Chicago rally after violent protests I wonder what the effect will be on Republican voters - anger at the protesters or at Trump ?

I think this is called "reaping what you sow".

There is fault on both sides of course, but the Trump side is led by a presidential candidate who is inciting violence.

You have to hope that there is still time for the genie of fascism can be put back in the bottle ...

Riots or violent protests tend to reinforce the authoritarian views of those voters who are already right wing, or even centrist.
Peaceful protest with thoughtful political banners: "He's got a tiny one !" would have made theirs views known without the risk of imcreasing Trump's votes further.

Apparently, the Republican primaries from now on are mostly winner takes all, instead of proportional allocation of delegates - Nate Silver says if Trump wins the 4 primaries on Tuesday, then he'd have 748 delegates.
After that, Silver thinks noone could stop Trump achieving the 1237 delegates needed for nomination.

I think it's very hard to know how this will play out.

I don't think its good for Trump. I think it gives a new urgency to republicans who think he must be stopped at all costs. It looks like Rubio and Kasich are promoting tactical voting in Florida and Ohio. (Whether this works is another question).

Trump has also managed to piss off the crazies at Breitbart by allowing his campaign manager to get away with (allegedly) assaulting a female reporter.

I don't think last night was good for Sanders either, tbh - not that he's done anything wrong but there is an element of guilt by association. It can't be good for candidates' "mainstream appeal" for their supporters to be seen chanting obscenities and throwing punches in front of TV cameras.

OTOH Hillary seems to be doing a good job of shooting herself in the foot too - was she asleep right through the 1980s?!

And these people are applying for the job of Leader of the Free World .

Trump has pulled off a huge coup here by cancelling the event. He was outwitted the media, the left and the billionaires who fund them. He will gain huge support from the people for the Illinois Primary which is winner take all on Tuesday. This will be the only media story there until Tuesday. The "silent majority" will now turn out in huge numbers for Trump.

Fox was covering it non-stop live and in my opinion was to some extent slanting some of their reporting against Trump and Marco Rubio phoned in live and said that Trump bore some responsibility due to his language but rightly said that the protest had been organised and possibly paid for and that MoveOn had tried to encourage protestors to get into the rally etc. Fox interviewed two of the protestors and asked them both whu they were protesting and they both said they didn't want to give their reasons. It looked like some of them may have been paid to turn up etc.

It was very sad for America watching it because this has been a growing issue in America, but in reality it is an organised and funded left wing thing to disrupt and intimidate. A lot of these type of movements and protests are funded by billionaires who fund the left.

"Billionaire George Soros spent $33MILLION bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators to create 'echo chamber' and drive national protests"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

"Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter

Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club."

www.politico.com/story/2015/11/major-donors-consider-funding-black-lives-matter-215814

Katrina Pierson, Trump's spokesperson, came on the phone to Fox and spoke about the organised nature of the protet and mentioned Saul Alinsky and "Rules for Radicals", which Trump and his people all know is behind these typr of lleft wing movements and which Hillary read when she was young. Trump is likely to bring all this up in the election as time goes on.

The left is desperate, the billionaires behind them who fund them are desperate, and they will probably try more disruption as the election nears because what we are witnessing in America is historic. Power is being taken back from the bllionaire globalists and America is being taken back from them. The intomidation, the political correctness and the media and spin doctor tricks that they have used to control discourse are all coming to an end. Trump is taking them all down one at a time.

Trump phoned into Fox and so did Ben Carson and they both said that "things have got to change". Trump is going to win huge support from ordinary people over this.

Fox said the protestors outside were very diverse, young students and old people including Republicans. Fox had some emails from viewers saying that the left had organised the demo and some even said that the Republican elite had organised the demo to try to smear Trump.

Trump phoned in and at one point said that "some people say I planned it" but he said he didn't, he just wanted to avoid any trouble.

In reality, the rally was about 25000 large and there were thousands of attendees queuing up outside waiting to get in. The number of protestors outside were in their hundreds to a thousand and they were peaceful. Inside the arena there were some scuffles as protestors mingled with the thousands of Trump fans who outnumbered them. What was interesting was that one of the Fox reporters had flown into Chicago on Trump's plane and said that Trump had said on the plane that they were getting indications that it might be rough and this was hours before the event was due to start. Also Trump said on the phone that they had contacted thousands of Trump fans telling them not to attend before Trump called it off.

The Guardian article says

"Despite Trump’s statement that he had consulted law enforcement, the Chicago police department emphasised it had no involvement in the decision."

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/12/donald-trump-rally-called-off-in-chicago-amid-protests-violence-and-chaos

I think Trump has outwitted the billionaires of the left and will gain huge support over the publicity that is generated out of this. None of the other Republicans will get anywhere near him and particularly if they try to blame his language at all. The way Trump's team has handled this and the way that Katrina Pierson brought up Saul Alinsky and "Rules for Readicals suggest to me that Trump is going to win and win big nad that as he and Ben Carson said "things are going to change". They are taking America back and the left wing billionaires and globalists have been outwitted.

Er, billionaires (except a v few like Warren Buffet) buy politicians who will keep their own taxes low, i.e. they fund rightwing conservatives and neocon stooges like the Clintons.
Hillary is not leftwing by any sensible standard - the Queen of Sleaze is 100% owned by Goldman Sachs and the 0.01 per centers.

The protesters seem to have enjoyed themselves, but we'll see on Tuesday if the inexorable rise in Trump delegates continues

If Trump does get to be the nominee, then any really violent riots later (I'm remembering that poor bloke being dragged out of his truck some years ago) could actually hand him victory in November:
People might vote viscerally - then really regret their decision a few months into 2017.

Well, at least we know where Claig stands :-/

On the side of millionaires who incite violence.

bigchoc actually I think Amerians are better than this.

I think that there is a serious risk now of people losing their lives.

'billionaires (except a v few like Warren Buffet) buy politicians who will keep their own taxes low, i.e. they fund rightwing conservatives and neocon stooges like the Clintons.'

right wing, left wing, they are all the same, "all in it together", all Establishment, just like our lot too. Trump is different which is why he is a real threat to them. The entire world's global elite, all of the political class of the EU, the bureaucrats at the United Nations and the billionaires worldwide are against Trump because he is going to end globalism and tear up their free market neoliberal trade rules and end their wars for profit. That is all the billionaires care about. It is about money, power and control and they are losing it and Trump is taking America back from them and he is going to bring jobs back for American people and "make America great again" and that petrifies the billionaires.

The political class is bought and paid for by them, they use tricks, diversions and spin to fool the people in order to maintain their advantage and the neoliberal globalist system.

But now it is all ending because Trump is a master at using the media, twitter and instagram and he has singlehandedly outplayed the whole lot of them. In my opinion, calling this rally off is just another master move in media management by Trump.

The Oxford PPEs don't like Trump because he threatens the entire globalist system, but they will have to grudgingly study how he beat the billionaires for years and years to come.

Trump is getting what he wants.

Protesters seen as violent. Himself as a victim. He's already portraying himself as a victim of the establishment and the elites and now of ordinary people. This is the US post-Trump. Scary!

Lweij, absolutely right. Trump has outsmarted the lot of them and portrayed himself as the victim and by extension, his supporters and the American people as the victim of the tricks and funding of the elites who fund the protestors. This will cause the "silent majority" to silently cast their votes at the polling booths for Trump. Trump will win the Illinois primary now in my opinion and the panic among the Establishment will reach fever pitch as their demise looms ever nearer.

In fact, this will have ramifications for all of the primaries on Tuesday, not just Illinois, because this is now a national media event and the "silent majority" in every state will stand with Trump against the shutdown and intimidation of "free speech" and the First Amendment.

All of his Republican opponents are now on the backfoot. If they condemn Trump for his "language" then they will appear as "politically correct" and the "silent majority" will abandon them and if they support Trump, then they will just be me-toos and the people will say that Trump is the real deal.

I think Trump has outsmarted the entire media and come up trumps yet again.

Did you miss the part of violence across the USA?

Of Trump portraying his adversaries as aggressive, when they're not?
And resulting in division and aggression between campaigners?
Is that what you want for the US?

There is no violence and Trump is against violence. That is the whole point - Trump protestors don't disrupt Hillary or Bernie rallies. The disruptions are all paid for by the elites against Trump rallies.

'Is that what you want for the US?'

Absolutely not which is why I said it is sad what has happened in the US with these disruptive protests against free speech and the politically correct movements on university campuses where professors and heads of schools have had to resign under protests from politically motivated student groups who object to certain halloween costumes etc.

The left will continue to try and disrupt Trump's progress because that is all they have got left. Trump supporters won't disrupt anything because they are the peaceful, "silent majority".

We will probably see more Saul Alinsky tye "rules for radicals" tricks from the left as they try to stop Trump peacefully and democratically taking America back.

Sure...
Because Trump hasn't actively kicked out people for just speaking or standing.

They are Trump rallies where tens of thousands of people go to have fun listening to Trump. They queue for hours and drive for miles to attend. Organised protest groups try to spoil the event for the thousands attending and are thrown out just like protestors would be thrown out at the Royal Opera House if they were interrupting the enjoyment of paying customers.

People can protest outside the events as they did last night in Chicago.

Throwing out protestors from a Trump rally is nothing like what progressive Labour did to an 82 year old man

"Heckler, 82, who dared called Straw a liar is held under terrorist law"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1499466/Heckler-82-who-dared-called-Straw-a-liar-is-held-under-terrorist-law.html

I wonder if Trump has been trying to provoke this all along, as part of his game plan to become POTUS.
Could his outrageous outbursts actually have been deliberate < paranoid ? >

I don't know, that may even be possible. He has clearly managed this calling off of the rally to his advantage in brilliant fashion which has outwitted the media. Whether he has planned his whole campaign all along, I don't know, but I do think that some of his statements have been so over the top that they must have been either calculated or stupid.

What is clear is that Trump intends to win and that the Establishment are petrified of him. The reason he wants to win is because America is on the verge of going under with its 19 trillion dollar deficit and Trump intends to save it and take it back from the globalists who have led it into the disastrous wars and disastrous financial state that it is in.

Trump said on the phone to Fox last night that it s sad what state America is in and how divided it has become. He said he was a unifier and that he will unite America again by bringing back millions of well-paid jobs back to the people and that then the disunity will disappear.

The people who fund the protestors want more disunity because they rule through divide and conquer, but Trump will beat them by being the unifier who scraps the trade deals that have destroyed the people's jobs and prosperity.

Yes, I remember being totally outraged when Walter Wolfgang was arrested: heckling = terorism. Not NuLab's finest moment.

Unrelated to this, but look what I've just come across

8. DeMyer's Laws
Named for Ken DeMyer, a moderator on Conservapedia.com. There are four: the Zeroth, First, Second and Third Laws.

The Second Law states: “Anyone who posts an argument on the internet which is largely quotations can be very safely ignored, and is deemed to have lost the argument before it has begun.”

Trump said on the phone to Fox last night that there is 59% unemployment among African-Americans and that the middle classes and middle America haven't had a pay rise in 12 years. That is all going to end when Trump wins. As he always says at Trump rallies "not gonna happen anymore".

How exactly will Trump get workers to have a pay rise? What mechanisms will he use to ensure that?

'How exactly will Trump get workers to have a pay rise? What mechanisms will he use to ensure that?'

Because he will encourage businesses to open up factories and plants and ship building etc in America by scrapping all of the world elite's trade deals. He said yesterday that he wants one-to-one trade deals with other countries, no more globalist TPP trade deals etc. He will also end illegal immigration. So there will be more businesses in America and fewer people looking for work and therefore wages will rise as high quality products are made in America again just like they used to be.

As Trump's Slovakian wife, Melania, said to him once, when she was a girl they used to see products with "made in America" written on them and that stood for quality, but now it is no longer the same.

Get ready for a change, Trump is going to change the entire world globalist system and America is going to be number one again, and that is great for us too because America is the freest country on the planet and we all have to hope that it stays that way and that Saul Alinsky and his "rules for radicals" never destroy the American Dream and never extinguish the American flame of freedom and enterprise and prosperity that has been such a shining example to the world.

What we are witnessing in America is a battle for the soul of America. It is Alinsky and the billionaires who use divide and conquer and who have a globalist agenda versus the unifier Trump who will bring jobs and prosperity back to America. The outcome will affect the entire planet. We can only hope that Trump will win.