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BeetrootsResolution · 30/12/2006 12:39

My uncle sent me this and thought it was an appropriate time to share it with you

The Truth?

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Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:07

you can have thermite granades, but evidence of a thermite reaction is not evidence of an explosive

They are misapplying a result to lead to a conculsion which is utterly unproven

'A thermite reaction is a type of aluminothermic reaction in which aluminium metal is oxidized by the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide. The name thermite is also used to refer to a mixture of two such chemicals. The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron, and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation. The reaction is used for thermite welding, often used to join rails.'

from wiki

So that would be Aluminium (the plane) reacting with iron oxide....rust in the girders

Sheesh, I can see the misconnect in that one, and I'm a bioloist!

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:08

'the fucking stuff' thermite is a reaction, not a product

NotQuiteCockney · 02/01/2007 21:09

Hmmm, a quick web search finds the pro-conspiracy sites saying only that sulfur was found. And of course some fairly convincing debunking , as ever ...

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:10

I have done a thermite reaction in my lab, thanks And I know just what it can do. I also know it is a reaction and not a 'thing' or stuff.

Just because aluminium reacted with iron oxide, and created a great deal of heat, it doesn't mean it was a bomb it could have been a reaction between the aircraft body and the iron oxide in the frame of the building. A plane flows at great spoped, with massive kietic energy, ypu, I guess the would well have been a thermite *reaction. Doesn't prove it was a bomb tho!

CountTo10 · 02/01/2007 21:12

Has anybody before ever seen a large passenger jet full of aviator fuel crash into the middle of a building instantaneosly exploding before then as I thought this was the first time it happened on this scale?? I'd like to see in these studies what the control was. How do these people possibly know that what happened at the trade centre couldn't possibly have happened in the way that it did??? Are these the same people that refuse to believe that some of the people in the trade centre actually chose to jump to their death than stay in the building even though there is clear footage of them doing it??
Did you watch the conspiracy prog on Sky 1 last year that then went onto disprove all its theories using scientific studies and people?

JanH · 02/01/2007 21:13
  • that was the point - it should have made it easy for the plane to be tracked and maybe headed off.

Anyway. I remain unconvinced that it all happened exactly the way they want us to believe it happened - too many questions, too little visible proof.

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:14

Oh...I see....so WTC 7.....not even hit by a plane...can you explain this then?????

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:16

You don't seem even slightly impressed that I have done a therite reaction in my lab. How curiously deflating

JanH · 02/01/2007 21:16

(As far as the thermalite goes, there was aluminium in the building construction as well as the plane, I read somewhere.)

uwila · 02/01/2007 21:16

Oi, Ludaloo. Watch your mouth. And be nice to MB.

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:17

\link{\can you watch this

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:17

no, it was hit by bits of buildings, and then caught fire. There is no conclusive preoof that they did find examples of thermite reactiosns. Did you read the link posted?

JanH · 02/01/2007 21:17

Or even thermite.

(Did I just invent a new reaction, thing or stuff?)

Aloha · 02/01/2007 21:18

Well, it had significant damage (photographs linked to all over the shop here on this thread) including a huge chunk missing from the corner, and it was on fire with smoke pouring out of the building on all levels. That seems like pretty severe damage to me.

Why would it be blown up anyway?

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:18

things can melt without thermite being involved.

JanH · 02/01/2007 21:18

ludaloo and mb, the jury is still out on why WTC7 fell down. I posted a link once, miles below, months ago.

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:18

can you watch this

or this even

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:21

uwila...watch my mouth?????????????? My language is no stronger than MB.....I am fully aware of who she is thank you very much.
My attitude is no worse than hers...I may not be a science proffessor but I'm past being spoken to like that thank you very much

JanH · 02/01/2007 21:22

"Any thermite reaction is a dangerous reaction and should only be performed by a trained professional capable of assessing the hazards and risks"

thank goodness you are one of those then, mb

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:23

Aloha...it might of had pretty significant damage!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTC 5 and 6 had pretty significant damage!!!!
More so infact....
Is anyone actually reading these posts any more???????

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:25

hay, I'm not a prof, and have never said I am. Please don't personalise this into some sort of argument. I was under the imporession it was a discussion.

If you want to make it personal, I'll go, since I really don't have the emotional resouces to cope with this at the moment, thanks.

Blandmum · 02/01/2007 21:26

yes, that is me! A trained profssional

It is quite exciting, but is OK to do ina lab, even with our currect H and S obcessed culture, as long as you follow the rules.

The use it on the railways to mend the rails.

It isn't a black art or anything.

just a chemical reaction.

ludaloo · 02/01/2007 21:27

oh for god sake.............

that was a response to UWILA......I have nothing personal against you...I don't even know you..............!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was a response to UWILA telling me to watch my mouth and be nice to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aloha · 02/01/2007 21:28

It DID have significant damage, the photographs show it and it was on fire. I'm no structural engineer, but those two things might well have contributed to the building's collapse.
You might as well say the fact that the other buildings DIDN'T collapse is proof that there were no explosives. After all, why not take them all down? Why just the three?

bettysdhyoucancallmebob · 02/01/2007 21:29

Yes Janh - I was agreeing with you.

If it was a huge cover up we won't find out for at least twenty years - JFK, Marilyn Monroe being good examples. How can anybody be so certain either way. Surely we can't say it was definitely the US Gov / CIA. Yet how can we, without all the true facts be sooo sure it wasn't.

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