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is it really possible that Donald trump could be president?????

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Bishopsbuddy · 10/02/2016 18:13

I have zero understanding of American politics and wondered could some one give me an idiots explanation pls. Could trump really win???

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claig · 26/02/2016 01:08

CNN commentators saying they all underestimated Trump and thought he would implode, now they have to go after him in desperation as Trump leads in 10 out of 11 states in next week's Super Tuesday.

Go Trump!

claig · 26/02/2016 01:27

Commentators are saying that nothing the other candidates have done has stuck on Trump. What they don't fully realise is that there is nothing they can do to stop Trump because the people love Trump and they don't love the rest of the bought and paid for shills. The people love Trump because we know he is on our side (he is not politically correct like the Establishment's shills). It doesn't matter if his opponents know more than Trump because Trump is with us and they are with the Establishment.

Want2bSupermum · 26/02/2016 02:07

BigChoc I think there is a sizable number of Hispanics here legally who are fed up of having to put up with stereotypes. I know what we went through for each of us to come to the US legally and its extremely frustrating that others walk in this country illegally and are pandered to. There is a process for a reason. There are so many hispanics here legally and they are highly educated in professional jobs. The stereotype really holds them back.

Slow To be fair to Trump he was misquoted and said he wanted a temporary halt to the immigration of Muslims in light of the terrorist attack in California. A week later, after the current politicians realized it was acceptable to the American public to do this, it was announced that there was a temporary halt to the immigration of Muslims.

Also, Cruz has been nothing but a sleazebag politician. I think Trump standing up for Carson after Iowa is what has strengthen Trump's candidacy. None of the others spoke out except Trump and it showed him to be a leader. What people want is someone in charge who knows right from wrong and is willing to speak up. What Trump did was extremely smart as he basically secured himself a large % of the Carson supporters once Carson steps out of the race and he made himself extremely appealing to the black community. He did it without going anywhere near Al Sharpton (slimiest slimeball ever IMO).

SlowFJH · 26/02/2016 06:11

Want2B
The YouTube clip of Trump reading his own "policy" re Muslims is there for all to see. Check it out. He said "I'm calling for a total and complete ban on Muslims entering the country until we get this sorted out"

My question is how would he enforce it? Would there be a tick box on the ESTA application? Or would immigration officials have to ask individuals that "looked like" Hmm Muslims whether they were or not?

SlowFJH · 26/02/2016 06:19

Claig
Just saw your comment. "I don't think he will [enforce the ban on Muslims]".

Do you believe that he will actually build the wall? Or is that also just something to do for effect?

Want2bSupermum · 26/02/2016 08:03

Slow Exactly - he isn't saying it's permanent per the 'until we get this sorted out'. Immigration do background checks but don't look beyond the country where you are coming from (I know this from the checks they did on DH when he went through the Green Card process in 2009). That in itself is rather short sighted in today's global world. So far in my life I have lived in more than 6 countries, some as a child but also some as an adult, DH has lived in 3 countries. Already if you are a citizen from the ME, you can't just visit the US as a tourist without a specialist visa. For ESTA forms, they don't go into enough depth to do much of anything. That is why when you fly to the US they have people asking questions. They follow the Israeli style of questioning to identify those they suspect of being potential terrorists. I have seen people held back a few times at UK airports for further questioning.

With the case of the wife in the Californian terrorist attack, a report written by the US government came out summarizing that if immigration had gone into her history beyond Saudi and looked at her time spent studying in Pakistan they would have uncovered the radicalization that had taken place while she was a student and she would not have been granted a visa to reside in the US with her DH.

Trump doesn't need to enforce the ban regarding Muslims. It has already gone into effect regarding immigration from ME citizens.

claig · 26/02/2016 08:59

'Do you believe that he will actually build the wall? Or is that also just something to do for effect?'

No, Trump will definitely build the Wall and Mexico will definitely have to pay for it no matter what their ex-presidents have to say about it.

The Establishment failed in their attempt to bring Trump down last night. They threw everything they had at him. Rubio and Cruz sprang at out out of the traps hurling low blows and underhamds accusations but Trump took each blow in his stride and gave back as good as he got. Trump is still in charge of the pack.

"Donald Trump Gave As Good As He Got in the CNN Debate

Donald Trump got hit from all sides on Thursday night.
...
Trump, though, remained largely calm throughout the night, giving nearly as good as he got during two-plus hours on the Houston stage. He didn’t win every individual skirmish, but with more likely victories awaiting him on Super Tuesday, he won enough to leave Texas in the same position that he arrived: as the clear front-runner."

www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/25/donald_trump_won_the_cnn_debate_by_not_losing_it.html

"Get ready for President Trump, says election whiz who’s scary accurate

A New York professor whose formula has proven accurate in every presidential election but one since 1912 says Donald Trump has a 97.6 percent chance — or better — of taking the white house if he’s the Republican nominee."

nypost.com/2016/02/25/get-ready-for-president-trump-says-election-whiz-whos-scary-accurate/

Donald Trump will build that wall and Mexico will be paying for it. Elites around the world will be in shock, nothing will be the same again, America will be on top and Trump will end their game worldwide.

claig · 26/02/2016 09:11

"Trump leads post-debate online polls"
...
Trump has mopped up in most of the post-debate online polling this cycle.

The surveys aren’t scientific but can gauge online enthusiasm for the candidates"

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270873-trump-leads-post-debate-online-polls

The people love Trump and there is nothing the Establishment and their sponsored candidates can do to dent his popularity. Everybody knows he is on our side and they are on the Establishment's side.

Lweji · 26/02/2016 09:58

It would be interesting to know what "'until we get this sorted out'." means.

No more muslims?
No more terrorism by muslim groups?
Full time surveillance systems for muslims entering the country?

It's just a vague meaningless expression.

Want2bSupermum · 26/02/2016 12:00

Trump clarified the following day that the process needed to be changed based on an investigation as to why the immigration background check didn't flag that she had been radicalized.

Sounds reasonable to me and it is exactly what the Obama administration have done.

Want2bSupermum · 26/02/2016 12:13

Also, Trump is not for war. He has said before that basically his plan is to have Putin deal with the middle east and leave the area well alone. It's one of the reasons he is popular. I think there is a higher probability of the U.S. having a bigger military presence if HC is in charge compared to Trump or Sanders.

Americans are fed up of military conflict in the ME. They have a huge bill to pay and nothing to show for it. People are also not stupid. 'Why did we go into Iraq?' is what I hear a lot.

So I have CNN on in the background. I think Trump has the hide of a rhino and Cruz and Rubio looked like a pair of yapping terriers at the debate last night. One thing people don't know about Trump is that he hires Union workers for his buildings. The unions have historically been linked to the mob. I was shocked that didn't come up last night. Yes Trumps company hired Polish workers illegally. I remember discussing this with my old boss at the investment bank. My comment that he was decades ahead in terms of hiring polish builders and told my boss all about polish builders coming to the UK to the point where you can't find a British builder anymore.

claig · 26/02/2016 12:33

'I think Trump has the hide of a rhino'

Absolutely. He has incredible confidence and courage. No other member of the political class comes near which is why if he runs America, America will get the best deals available worldwide and things will change for the better.

Want2bSupermum · 26/02/2016 13:42

The thing is that I don't know if someone with the hide of a rhino is the right type for running a country. A business yes but a country I don't know.

claig · 26/02/2016 13:52

Want2bSupermum, Trump has so much courgae and no attacks affect him and that is what is needed to turn America round. He will destroy the vested interests, expose the corruption, end the decline of America and oppose the bankers and corporations who are happy to ship jobs abroad.

He showed courage in defending Planned Parenthood when the Establishment stooges had to attack every aspect of it to please their Establishment masters. he showed courage to say that after he deports the illegal immigrants, some of them will be able to reenter by going through the correct legal channels when the Establishment had to pretend they would deny them all entry in their attempt to pretend they are tough.

Trump showed tremendous courage in saying he would be neutral in a deal for Israel-Palestine when we all know he will not let Israel down, but where the others had to say they would not be neutral in order to appear tough.

Trump wants to get things done, to achieve results, to be unlike the "bought and paid for " politicians who are "all talk no action" and who have never held a real job or hired real people in their lives.

Trump has the courage to transform America, to take the country back from the international globalists who have allowed its jobs to be exported and who have presided over trade deals and global warming targets that have weakened America.

People with the "hide of a rhino" and courage of Trump are very rare and they are the only ones who can withstand the pressure of the special interests and ignore them to work for the people instead.

claig · 26/02/2016 13:58

Trump attacks anyone who criticises him - Murdoch, Fox, The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, politicians, presidents, absolutely anyone. He has no fear at all because and that is what America needs, someone who stands up for America and the people.

No other politiican on the world stage is anything like him. They are all too frightened to criticise newspaper proprietors or other powerful people in case they are attacked back and lose votes.

Trump has had enough of "losers", "liars" (as he calls Cruz) and "chokers" (as he calls Rubio), and he is going to make America "win again".

Lweji · 26/02/2016 14:08

I somewhat get the feeling that Trump would rather turn inwards and turn the US into an ivory tower. or a Trump tower
But he's only following the winds of public opinion, rather than giving his own, in his campaign.

He's, supposedly or now, not in favour of war, but he seems to be in favour of military intervention when there's profit to be had from the intervention.

“In the old days, you know when you had a war, to the victor belong the spoils,” he told George Stephanopoulos in 2011. “You go in. You win the war and you take it. . . . You’re not stealing anything. . . . We’re taking back $1.5 trillion to reimburse ourselves.” A few days after his interview with Stephanopolous, he suggested that U.S. policy toward the uprising against Moammar Qaddafi in Libya should also focus on “taking the oil.”"

And he has appeared quite in favour of strong military intervention.
Him on Libya:
""I can’t believe what our country is doing," Trump said, according to a BuzzFeed transcript. "Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage.""

Lweji · 26/02/2016 14:09

I find his comments about taking the oil shocking for a possible president of any country, let alone the US.
That shows where his focus is.

claig · 26/02/2016 14:17

Trump is flexible and he changes his mind as circumstances change. He is not a professional member of the political class so he was in the past not always up to speed on everything that was going on which is why he has changed his mind as he discovered more of the truth.

He was against what Obama and Clinton did in Libya and in Syria and he said last night "If Gaddafi and Saddam were still in power, we would all have been better off. If the politicians had taken a day off and gone to the beach instead, we would all have been better off".

But, if America has to intervene, then he says that America should be adequately recompensed for it and that means "taking the oil". That is realpolitik. America ha a huge deficit that is one of teh drivers for the global elite to push for WWIII. Trump wanst to stop WWIII and the crazies kicking it off, so he will slash the deficit by using other measures such as "taking the oil" if it is necessary for America to intervene and take out the Jihadis and the people who fund and sponsor them.

'I find his comments about taking the oil shocking for a possible president of any country, let alone the US. '

I don't. He is saying there will be no longer be something for nothing. Mexico will pay for the wall, China will buy US goods to slash their trade surplus and if the American military have to intervene to defeat a funded and sponsored group of Jihadis, then America wil "take the oil" in recompense.

emilybohemia · 26/02/2016 14:19

What do you think of his removal of Muslims from his rallies, claig?

claig · 26/02/2016 14:24

'What do you think of his removal of Muslims from his rallies, claig?'

Thos protestors were stooges. The Establishment puts stooges into rallies to protest so that the media can film them and Fox and the media can play it on TV. It is part of the propaganda game that the Establihment always plays. All protestors are removed from rallies because they disrupt the event for the tens of thousands of people who have turned up to listen to Trump. It is not only Muslim protestors that are removed from the rallies.

Among Muslims who support the Republicans, Trump is their most favoured candidate.

Lweji · 26/02/2016 14:25

One might call him flexible, others could call him hypocrite.

wiltingfast · 26/02/2016 14:29

Unfortunately, I just struggle to believe that Trump has the slightest interest in doing anything with America other than treating it like some sort of looty bag for himself and his friends.

How exactly does $9.5 TRILLION in tax cuts translate into any kind of good deal for America as a nation state, never mind for its citizens?

They won't need a Mexican Wall, they'll need one around every house and possibly a gun man on top too. Just as well the citizens will have that extra money I guess, cause for sure the American govt won't...

fortune.com/2015/12/23/donald-trump-plan-tax-policy-center/

Mind you the other Republicans candidates are just as awful. They just present themselves a bit more reasonably.

American politics have gone to hell really. V depressing.

emilybohemia · 26/02/2016 14:29

One stood silently. What 'disruption' did that cause?

What does Trump's response to peaceful protest say about him and the kind of leader he will be?

claig · 26/02/2016 14:29

'others could call him hypocrite'

That is what the Establishment and their political class are trying to call him, but it is not fooling the American people. He is leading all his opponents by double digits. He has singlehandedly increased turnout in the primaries, and has boosted viewing figures for debates. He has energised the American people and restored faith and hope in America as the people see a chance to get rid of their "loser" politically correct political class.

claig · 26/02/2016 14:32

'One stood silently. What 'disruption' did that cause?'

She stood up in order to act like a sore thumb to stand out in a crowd of thousands who were there to enjoy a Trump rally. It was a staged event and the media were there to film it for their use. If she didn't want to listen to Trump, then she should not have taken the place of the thousands who were denied entry because the stadium was full.

If she doesn't like Trump, then she can vote against him, but not carry out a staged act in the middle of a Trump rally in order to act as a spoiler.

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