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is it really possible that Donald trump could be president?????

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Bishopsbuddy · 10/02/2016 18:13

I have zero understanding of American politics and wondered could some one give me an idiots explanation pls. Could trump really win???

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claig · 17/02/2016 09:32

"Establishment wrong again: Trump wins college-educated voters in NH"
...
www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/09/establishment-fail-trump-wins-college-educated-voters-in-nh/

"Donald Trump said that if he were elected president, he would become the calmest, nicest, most politically correct person in the world.

"When I’m president I’m a different person. I can do anything. I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen," Trump said at a rally in Pella, Iowa, on Saturday."

www.vox.com/2016/1/25/10828244/trump-politically-correct-president

claig · 17/02/2016 09:34

"We all know Trump is the greatest everything" Bernie Sanders, Feb 2016

claig · 17/02/2016 09:40

'Which of them would do something about America's gun problem?'

Trump is 100% for protecting the Second Amendemnt and the right to bear arms. Surprisingly, Bernie is also for protecting the Second Amendment, but of course, Hillary is not.

The real earthquake this week is the death of Supreme Court justice Scalia, found wth a pillow over his head and declared dead of natural causes with no autopsy carried out. This could affect absolutely everything concerning the Constitution depending on who Obama appoints to replace him.

Mistigri · 17/02/2016 09:54

Obama can a nominate a successor to Scalia, not appoint him or her.

claig · 17/02/2016 10:04

On February 9, the Supreme Court dealt a blow to the global oligarchy over their pet project - climate change.

"On Feb 9, the court upheld a delay of Obama’s war on fossil fuels, which is supposed to “stop climate change,” in the form of new restrictions on factories’ greenhouse-gas emissions. Apparently a majority of the court is less confident of the “science around climate change” than Obama is."

nypost.com/2016/02/15/the-supreme-court-sided-with-science-against-obama/

On Feb 13, the greatest conservative Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia, is found dead with a piloow over his head

"Here's What Scalia's Death Means for Global Warming

Will the shifting balance on the Supreme Court help save Obama's climate policy?
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high court would change, abruptly.

And then that happened, too.

The impact of Justice Antonin Scalia's death will reverberate across the legal landscape, and we can't yet grasp its full consequences. But one is already clear: The most important environmental initiative of the Obama presidency is now much more likely to succeed."

www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/antonin-scalia-death-supreme-court-climate-change

"Donald Trump warned against scrapping Paris climate deal

US climate envoy says threats by Republican presidential candidates to withdraw from the global agreement would be ‘diplomatic black eye’ "

www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/16/todd-stern-warns-republicans-against-scrapping-paris-climate-deal

They can warn Trump all they like, but Trump does not back down.

The global oligarchy is in big trouble if Trump becomes president.

Will the shifting balance on the Supreme Court help save Obama's climate policy?

claig · 17/02/2016 10:08

'Obama can a nominate a successor to Scalia, not appoint him or her.'

True, Mistigri.

But the implications for America and even free speech and the First Amendment, which we know some Democrats would like to curtail, are enormous.

And although Trump will defend the Constitution, no one is sure that the Republican elite, who oppose Trump, really will do so as they have caved in to Obama on a lot of issues which is why there is the people's insurgency against the Republican elite and why South Carolina can no longer be described as "Bush country". It looks like it may now be called "Trump country".

Lweji · 17/02/2016 10:21

Which of them would do something about America's gun problem?

Ah, if anyone, I think it would be Sanders, but he'd always be limited, as Obama or any of the Clintons.

Obama is also now assigning more funds towards preventing and treating drug abuse than combating traffic. Which is more effective.
I suspect Trump would revert that, although, who knows? I do think he's much less right wing than he advertises, but he could simply go with the most public red neck friendly policies to assure a 2nd term. I don't think he cares enough about the people. Despite protestations.

Mistigri · 17/02/2016 10:28

I don't think any of them will do anything about gun control. Obama has done very little on this issue, but it's hardly for want of trying.

claig · 17/02/2016 10:33

"Antonin Scalia's death calls supreme court gun rights stance into question
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When the supreme court ruled in 2008 that the second amendment gives Americans an individual right to own a firearm, it was Justice Antonin Scalia who wrote the historic and controversial majority opinion. The decision in that District of Columbia v Heller case, which struck down a local handgun ban, was 5-4.

It was also Scalia who last month joined in Justice Clarence Thomas’s strongly worded dissent when the supreme court chose not to reconsider a seventh circuit court of appeals decision that an Illinois city’s assault weapon ban was constitutional.

“If a broad ban on firearms can be upheld based on conjecture that the public might feel safer (while being no safer at all), then the Second Amendment guarantees nothing,” the dissent argued.

Scalia’s sudden death at age 79 throws the supreme court’s divided stance on the second amendment into question."

www.theguardian.com/law/2016/feb/13/anotnin-scalia-justice-dead-supreme-court-gun-rights

var123 · 17/02/2016 11:56

its a strange one the way Americans hold onto their love of the 2nd amendment. It was written in different times, and no sane person would write it today knowing how the world has evolved.

I can see why you would not want the constitution changed every few years, but a law which allows the bad guys and the mad ones to have easy access to guns surely needs reviewed.

GruntledOne · 17/02/2016 12:03

When I’m president I’m a different person. I can do anything. I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen," Trump said at a rally in Pella, Iowa

Compare and contrast:

claig: this is a revolution and they know it. It is the end of political correctness across the entire planet.

Yet another lie?

And I have to say I wouldn't want a candidate who tells me that if he gets into power he won't be the person I've voted for.

var123 · 17/02/2016 12:06

To be honest, his supporters are probbaly thinking that he'll be exactly the person that they want him to be - with each of them a slightly different vision from the next. They'll all be disappointed. I'd be aware the lack of gun control on the disaffected ex-Trumpeteers if I were him.

claig · 17/02/2016 12:57

'Yet another lie? '

No, we all know Trump is joking. He will never let the people down. He is not politically correct because he insists on telling the truth. But he will tone down some of his blunt language when he wins.

He was on Fox and Friends just now and wow, was it an explosive interview. Fox were trying to defend George W Bush and Trump was having none of it, he "doubled down" as he always does.

He said "who blew up the WTC, it wasn't the Iraqis, it was Saudi, take a look at Saudi Arabia, open up the documents"

Stunned looks on the faces of the Fox hosts, defence in tatters, because they all know but dare not say anything about the redacted pages in the documents.

The elite know that if Trump wins, he may open up the documents and wow, that will be incredible.

Fox host asked Trump how will it go for him in South Carolina if he keeps attacking Bush who has 84% approval rating and because there is a huge military contingent in South Carolina.

Trump said "i don't know, I don't do things for that, I tell the truth"

That is what we love about the Donald. That is why we support Trump 2016!

"Public Policy interviewed 897 likely GOP primary voters in South Carolina on Sunday and Monday after Saturday night’s contentious GOP debate and found The Donald leading among almost every group in the state:

he’s at 41% with ‘somewhat conservative’ voters, 40% with younger voters, 38% with men, 36% with self identified Republicans, 35% with Evangelicals, 35% with middle aged voters, 34% with non-Evangelicals, 31% with women, 30% with self identified independents, 30% with ‘very conservative’ voters, 30% with seniors, and 29% with moderates. He has a lead of some size within every single one of those groups, similar to what he was able to do in New Hampshire.

Trump is even leading among voters who hold a positive view of former President George W Bush. Did I mention this poll was conducted after Trump assailed Bush’s brother Jeb! on a South Carolina debate stage Saturday night with charges that W failed to keep us safe on 9/11?"

www.salon.com/2016/02/16/donald_trumps_south_carolina_supporters_are_the_most_radical_yet/]

It's a revolution. They can warn him all they like, Trump will never back down, he will never let the people down. Trump is not politically correct.

claig · 17/02/2016 13:08

Rudy Giulian was on Fox before Trump spoke and Rudy likes Trump and he may even end up endorsing him but he hasn't said anything yet, and Rudy told the Fox hosts that he thinks Trump was wrong to attack George W Bush and call him a liar.

Then Fox put Trump on and asked him what he thought of Giuliani's statements and Trump said "I don't care what he says".

Trump is like nothing the world has ever seen. He is the middle finger to political correctness, the middle finger to the political class and the middle finger to lies. That is why he leads all the polls among American Republican voters and why real conservatives across the planet are all rooting for Trump.

var123 · 17/02/2016 13:13

Honestly, claig, the world has seen the like of Trump before. He's just rude, and we've all met rude people before.

If he were British, he'd probably be one of those people who go around insulting others and probably announcing "I speak as I find, me".

Sorry to disappoint you (though I can't think why you'd be pleased to discover it), but an absence of courtesy is not a new invention.

claig · 17/02/2016 13:17

'Honestly, claig, the world has seen the like of Trump before'

They never have. Can you not understand what incredible courage it takes for Trump to do what he is doing, to challenge the entire Establishment and every single convention and myth? Can't you see how different he is to any one of our "political class" who are too scared to tell the truth on anything in case the BBC and Guardian call them out on it?

'If he were British'

Unfortunately, we don't have people like Trump. Only in America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. Only Trump 2016!

Lweji · 17/02/2016 13:23

incredible courage.

is it really possible that Donald trump could be president?????
claig · 17/02/2016 13:27

Muttley is my favourite cartoon character of all time. Grin
Very funny!
Even funnier than Gordon Brown.

var123 · 17/02/2016 13:29

No, I don't see it.

We talked about the definition of words like courage and fearless and brave before. You use them liberally, but you are mis-using them. Its not courageous to do something that doesn't frighten you. Trump is not afraid of the establishment (which has a small "e" by the way - not sure if you are getting that deliberately wrong or not). Trump is not scared because he doesn't care what they will think, say or do. So by definition he's showing no bravery by being rude.

claig · 17/02/2016 13:35

'Trump is not scared because he doesn't care what they will think'

Of course he is scared of them. Don't you realise how powerful they are, don't you realise what they are capable of? He knows that, but it is precisely because he knows what they can do and is scared of that that he shows amazing courage in ignoring that to insist on telling the truth.

Trump is on a mission to save America for the American people. He says the rest are "bought and paid for".

They can warn him as much as they like, he ain't listening, he is going to end America's decline and wipe out its huge deficit.

"Not gonna happen anymore".
Trump 2016!

var123 · 17/02/2016 13:38

If Trump was scared them he'd be a tiny bit less bumptious. Its unnecessary

Lweji · 17/02/2016 13:44

var123
you'll never get him to make sense. Nor anyone will Trump.

claig · 17/02/2016 13:47

'If Trump was scared them he'd be a tiny bit less bumptious'

Can't you see Trump's genius in outsmarting them. They all call him a clown and a buffoon, even our so-called conservative "political class" join in on that.

But Trump's strategy has consistently been to dominate the media, suck all the oxygen out of his Establishment opponents' tents, by being ever more bumptious, forthright and unpolitically correct. All his opponents and the political class can do is to tut and call him a buffoon while looking worriedly at his poll ratings whch soar ever higher.

They have no answer to him because the American people like a fighter who tells the truth and socks it to them. And as the excellent liberal journalist, Heather Digby Parton, rightfully wrote

"And whether they want to admit it or not it’s far from clear that the Democrats will be any better at dealing with it than the Republicans have been."

claig · 17/02/2016 13:53

"He's hijacked my party," said Jeb Bush "and someone has to take a stand".

Commentators are now saying that South Carolina may be Jeb's last stand.

Trump, the non-politician, who says "politicians - all talk no action" is showing the political class some action and they don't know what to do.

claig · 17/02/2016 13:58

There are only three days left. Three days to the South Carolina vote.

Expect to see the Establishment roll out their last hope - Gordon Brown - with an impassioned plea. "We have just three days left to save the planet".

They warned Trump not to scrap the Paris Climate Change deal.
Don't they realise that no one warns Trump? USA!

Trump 2016!

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