Cologne Sexual Assaults IX and David Davies Web Chat

[LumelaMme]

On New Year's Eve women in Cologne were amongst those who were sexually assaulted and robbed in mass attacks.
This is a link to the last thread which has links to all the others.

Some of us have begun a petition asking the government to uphold women's rights and freedoms:

THE PETITION _ Please sign and share
The petition

We also hope that tomorrow, Monday 8th February, David TC Davies MP will be on MN for a web chat between 1pm and 2pm - it should be a sticky on either Chat or In The News. David was one of the few MPs who has shown any interest in this whole issue and who has responded sympathetically to those of us concerned about women's rights in a changing world.

Woodhill, Islam itself isn't a threat: there are plenty of Muslims who plug quietly on with their lives.

Islamism is what worries me: where the Koran is interpreted literally and the adherents want to see Islamic influences in politics.

How can a country with a human rights record like turkey be allowed into the EU?

Because Erdogan said he would send busloads of migrants to the Greek borders if the EU did not pay him (£3bn) to reduce the number fleeing to Greece.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/12/turkish-president-threatens-to-send-millions-of-syrian-refugees-to-eu

So Merkel agreed to restart talks with with Turkey to fast-track their EU membership and will allow Turks to travel visa-free to the Schengen area from Oct 16.

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a56fec72-975d-11e5-95c7-d47aa298f769.html#axzz40uCQGGo6

I do not want Turkey in the EU. I think we need to leave it before Turkey joins. This referendum will be the last chance we have as Cameron has said he supports Turkey's membership of the EU

Yes Lum to a point but you do need to look at those who try to convert to Christianity from Islam are treated. There was a story about a man in Bradford was treated appallingly by his community for becoming a christian. They did horrible things like destroying his property and injuring him. He got arrested by the police as they testified against him.

What is so frustrating, though, Wood, is that Islam doesn't have to be like that.

Lumela Thanks.
Kamel Daoud et les « fantasmes » de Cologne, retour sur une polémique
www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2016/02/20/kamel-daoud-et-les-fantasmes-de-cologne-retour-sur-une-polemique_4868849_3232.html?xtmc=cologne&xtcr=4

This is a notable article in Le Monde and I feel worth Google translating. It is about Kamel Daoud an Algerian author on his ideas published in Le Monde «Cologne, lieu de fantasmes ».
Mis en cause dans une récente polémique où on lui a reproché de relayer des idées « islamophobes », l’écrivain algérien Kamel Daoud annonce qu’il «arrête le journalisme ». He quit journalism.

Also by Kamel Daoud www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2016/01/31/cologne-lieu-de-fantasmes_4856694_3232.html

Kamel Daoud is Algerian author. Il est notamment l’auteur de Meursault, contre-enquête (Actes Sud, 2014), Prix Goncourt du premier roman. Il est également chroniqueur au Quotidien d’Oran.

No justice then for the women in Cologne:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35647308

That's a very sad outcome. Let's hope that all Europe can learn from this shambles and work towards ensuring that the migration crisis is not going to endanger any more people who want to enjoy their freedom.

This petition is a start. Do sign.

is what a UK MEP, Mary Honeyball, thinks of concerns about women's safety post-Cologne.

It concerns me greatly that women's safety is dismissed so glibly for the sake of avoiding nuanced, sensitive and painful discussion.

Or perhaps Mary is a misogynist? I did write to ask her thoughts behind her dismissal but, unlike the majority of MPs and MEPs approached by many of us in January, she did not even acknowledge receipt of my email.

www.theguardian.com/education/2016/feb/24/privately-educated-elite-continues-to-take-top-jobs-finds-survey In the field of law, 74% of top judges working in the high court and appeals court were privately educated, while in journalism, more than half (51%) of leading print journalists went to independent schools, with one in five having attended comprehensive schools, which currently educate 88% of the population

Mary's response to Morvai, of the foul Jobbik party, was entirely proportionate.

A little interval whilst we gather our snacks and some music

lets hit the decks

What kind of music do you call that Sport

Thanks sport . I have not heard of the group before. I found in the wiki this is Digital hardcore, hardcore techno, hardcore punk, drum and bass, industrial metal, noise, experimental. Is part of this music digitally produced?

Digital Hardcore

It's kinda digital punk I guess

So far a suspended sentence for a man who stole a mobile.

Cologne police doubtful they'll convict sex attackers as they don't have sufficient ID.

Women need to be far more vigilant whilst they're being multiply digitally raped by gangs of strangers in crowded places.they should ask for the name, address, passport number and/or fingerprint the perps. Photographic or video evidence would help.
Ideally, please ensure you apprehend the men who attack you and wait quietly for the police to arrive.

Alternatively, just stand there, be welcoming and suck it up. To complain is, in some political quarters, positively racist.

Sport Atari 've got Singles as well. Is it from an album the one posted? they have been around since 1993 I see. Has their style changed over the years?

Yep they have a new album out last year and still going strong. Alec Empire and Hanin Elias also have solo stuff which is good too.

I try to find lyrics who is writing those, Atari?

They ve got dynamics.

Alec Empire used to write some and Nic Endo, I think Hanin used to write some songs as well, she certainly writes her own stuff. Two very strong ladies.

That track is excellent. Thank you

I like the music sport thanks

Last waltz of the night...

Yes January they're conveniently saying they doubt many will be caught.

But they have started a new investigation. Into who leaked details of the cover up. . I'm sure they'll manage to make arrests in that one. This is all very reminiscent of the Asian grooming gangs back story. Ignore the crimes but prosecute those who expose them.