Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX

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Women in the UK must be free to work, travel and live free of sexual violence

Recently, women across the EU were subjected to mass sexual assaults of a type previously unknown in Europe. We demand that Government brings forward proposals for extra measures to uphold UK women's rights, safety & freedom, and to expand police understanding-recognition-response to such behaviour.

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AnnaForbes

I would happily travel to London to protest if anything was organised

What's stopping your from organising something?

you not your

If I get deleted for the previous post I'll have to stop posting as I can't keep second guessing myself each time, it's too much work. The last post I had deleted I didn't feel was generalising and was to the point that it was not about all migrants/refugees.

Just as an aside the Turkey deal seems to be not working very well already, it's not cutting numbers and apparently numbers are increasing on the more dangerous Italian route. The translators and various officers required to process asylum claims won't arrive till 4 April it seems at the earliest. The Greeks are saying the situation is untenable. There is still the issue of what to do with all the people at Idomeni. No one seems to know what to do at all. And they are saying that many Kurds may flee Turkey too when the visas are relaxed due to what the Turkish government is doing to them. And they are the only ones really fighting Isis there.

Goodness what a mess. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

The Hungairan PM seems able to say it.

Search this reference on YouTube .. ZfOiWY5Egtc

Sorry, but he doesn't speak English... (how dare he!)... (eeer that is a joke) and you have to read subtitles.

sporting - NATO, Interpol and the UN seem accepting of your previous post, but what do they know eh?

In a war situation where a country descends in to chaos much of the former institutions and infrastructure are disbanded simply because no one is in a position to carry on running it, or doesn't actually want to. Therefore it all ends up being dismantled. It happens with everything including hospitals, schools all administration. This will be the challenge whenever things do become settled in Syria and other countries currently in a war situation. It will be a huge job and take a lot of expertise to put back what was taken down. I imagine you're talking decades, even a lifetime. Much of it will of course be irreplaceable.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-35869266
Have you seen this?

Yes I have. It's awful, it seems to be revenge for the guy they caught.

Just feel heartbroken for the families of those affected and for Belgium as a whole. As Francois Hollande said, it affects all Europe.

Terrible news. The sky is dark with pigeons coming home to roost.

Horror! what else are we going to see? www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-35869266
Beatrice Delvaux, 'They know all this is true. They know too that they knew: this was going to happen, this was bound to happen'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-35869266 :
'I had expected that something would happen but not on this scale. This is really highly coordinated Belgian jihadist analyst Pieter Van Ostaeyen "pulled together at very short notice"
And imagine this is said by an expert who did not anticipate the magnitude of attack!

60 minutes on Swedish migrants is worth watching pubilshed on 20 March - youtube

I know someone in Sweden who has taken in several teenagers. It is very very good of people to do that. They ave having to let one 14 year old - she hasn't told me what he has done but it must have been quite difficult if with this one they cannot make the fostering work.

I have the greatest admiration for your friend in Sweden Eustace. Is the bone density test for age done there? The 14 year old might well be an awful lot older, which might explain the reason for the fostering breakdown.

I can't speak for Eustace Limer but I have relatives in Sweden and they told me that bone density scans and dental checks aren't done as the authorities consider them against the person's human rights and are undignified...

One relative was telling me how migrants / refugees who arrive with a child bride are having blind eyes turned so as not to offend their culture. I would like to think in the UK the child would at the very least be removed and can't under how Sweden can justify this. There is a complete blackout on reporting regarding the assaults from migrants an refugees from their media and most people get their information from the UK media.

I am scared for my young female family members growing up in Sweden. With the damage being wreaked on women and children in the countries which have basically had open door policies I am sickened by some one poster on this thead who would welcome this on the UK.

That's interesting Rusty and I wholly share your sentiments. Why are Sweden hiding this disaster to their social fabric? Probably because they're very embarrassed about it, and still think they can somehow pull it round, and magically transform the migrants into good, decent Swedes. That will never happen - not while those migrants subscribe to a religion that advocates death to the infidel and zero rights for women.

I am repulsed by the fact that the Swedish authorites are prepared to overlook fucking children as a "colourful cultural enchantment". I'm sure your average Swede in the street is appalled by such complicity.

Why can't anyone stand up and say "In Europe we don't fuck children".

Eustace I would imagine the problem with the failed fostering is much as limer alludes to. A wolf in sheep's clothing scenario.

Mariscal Shocking. It's not exactly a "vast scale" - anyone with the most rudimentary knowledge of physics can build a nail-bomb - and it only takes 3 maniacs to have caught the train from Brussels-Zaventem and then walked into the departures hall.

Once the GP begin to understand exactly HOW easy it is to do this then perhaps they might grasp the severity of the situation.

Getting those barbarians on 4 planes took planning. 3 stooges on a train doesn't require a mastermind.

The International Criminal; Court finally recognises rape is a war crime. About time. Now lets nail the fuckers.

www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21695328-courts-guilty-verdict-against-jean-pierre-bemba-marks-milestone

The ruling relates to rape in Central African Republic but does it sound a bit familiar?

“Most rapes, as well as the looting, were perpetrated collectively in public, sometimes in the presence of the victims’ relatives. This practice was intended to terrorise the peaceful population of the CAR.

It is a small step forward. Rape has long been a weapon of war. I'm reading a history of the Napoleonic wars and guess what? It features there very heavily too. It has long been seen as a way of subduing a population, spreading terror. We are naive to think we have progressed too much further in some ways.

The group and public nature of this way of operating does have some parallels with Cologne in that both were intended as being about power and not sexual gratification. They both indeed seem to have been in conjunction with the taking of property also. It is like saying " we can abuse your women and take your property" . Not much about sex as such.

It's interesting watching the news this morning that again the perpertrators of the bombings were in fact let go previously by Belgian Intel services due to no evidence of links with terrorism when they were picked up by Turkey. I expect Belgium will be taking a long hard look at where this fell down as it's clear that something is falling down in detecting terror cells within the Belgian community. It's awful seeing the victims, I can't imagine what their families are going through, there just are no words to cover it.

Rusty ---- I have relatives in Sweden and they told me that bone density scans and dental checks aren't done as the authorities consider them against the person's human rights and are undignified...

It looks like Sweden is deliberately constructing reasons why not to check for age. Dishonest migrants LOVE this sort of attitude! And yet it is not against a Swedish person's dignity not to be abused in public or raped by a misogynist migrant. What???? Check out the Malmo rape stats/ethncity folks, if you do not believe me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3501227/Greeks-say-deport-migrants-Turkey-despite-new-EU-deal-return-desperate-thousands-try-beat-deadline.html
from DM:
Two migrants are TRAMPLED to death in Lesbos as refugees stampede to make it to Europe before Greece's 'one in, one out' scheme begins
Two men, including a father of four, were trampled to death as desperate passengers stampeded to disembark one of the overcrowded boats arriving in Lesbos from Turkey

As far as I know they (the couple who have 2 young childreno f their own by the way) have had about 6 teenage boys so far, I think all of African descent and most of the fostering has gone very well. I didn't want to pry about the reasons why the 14 year old has gone. I just think she is amazing in taking in these boys. I am not sure I would. I am not sure whether thre is a massive great fostering fee as there is in the UK for domestic fostering. You are opaid £352 a week where I live in London for fostering just one child which is £18,304 a year per child.

This appears to be happening in Germany:

www.express.co.uk/news/world/656066/German-railway-launches-women-children-carriages-sex-attack-fears-Cologne

I know Mr Corbyn suggested this a while ago but it doesn't seem like an answer. It is almost like putting the onus on women to segregate themselves from men to stay safe and goes back to an era where we had the separate Ladies waiting room at stations (which you can sometimes still see the original Victorian labelling for).

It all seems like a step backwards into the past not something I had expected to see in Germany which I always regarded whilst growing up to be quite progressive in most ways.

Interested to hear what others think as most people on the thread when JC suggested it felt it was not a good plan. Are we being forced into changing for the worst?

What a horrible retrograde step that is Sporting. How terribly damning that these measures are felt to be necessary. What will be next - bathing machines on the beaches so that women can enter the sea with their modesty intact?

Yes I was a bit when I saw that as I remember thread about JC suggesting it pretty well and the reactions to it. I wouldn't want it to be seen as something we have to do just so we can travel on a train which is a pretty run of the mill activity.

I want to feel that we can trust others to behave in a civilised way in public.