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Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX

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vladimirsoftless · 07/02/2016 13:06

Petition

Women in the UK must be free to work, travel and live free of sexual violence

Recently, women across the EU were subjected to mass sexual assaults of a type previously unknown in Europe. We demand that Government brings forward proposals for extra measures to uphold UK women's rights, safety & freedom, and to expand police understanding-recognition-response to such behaviour.

Please take a look and and sign:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119385

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Moreshabbythanchic · 20/03/2016 15:39

Sorry if my post was confusing but what I was trying to say is Amouse posted a comment from someone from Stand up to Racism saying "women who wear hijab and niqab have the right to walk down the street without fear of attack" but at the same time women in Sweden are being told to stay indoors to avoid being raped. A town in Sweden declined to take part in Earth Hour, where all street lights are turned off to bring awareness to climate change, they did this as the threat of women being raped whilst out in the dark is very likely there.

So women who want to wear hijab etc should be free to walk the streets without fear of being attacked yet Swedish women are being told to stay indoors to avoid the same thing.

Limer · 20/03/2016 16:13

Superb post by Unlucky83. This extract in particular makes my blood run cold:

‘I felt angry because the girl was my nationality,’ added father-of-one Mohammed Al-Mulhem, 26, from ISIS-infested Deir ez-Zuor in Syria.
so not because a 7yo was being raped but because it was a Syrian girl

These people will end up living in Europe. If they think so little of non-Syrians, how on earth will they become valuable citizens of Europe?

Indigofactory · 20/03/2016 17:17

moreshabby

I think you've just put your finger right on it.

I haven't yet read of mass assaults on women in hijab, and I'm pretty sure the liberal media would have gone to town on it if so, but do correct me if I missed any.

As you rightly point out, there are women in Europe, whose grandmothers fought to get us into trousers, university, the housing market and out of marriages we don't want, and separate entrances (schools, pubs).

Yet those same women are now under weekly if not daily attacks and there is almost not outcry at all.

Where are the marches about that? Why are Corbyn and Abbot not making a song and dance about the erosion of those rights?

AnnaForbes · 20/03/2016 17:55

Indigo, I agree, where are the protests? I would happily travel to London to protest if anything was organised. We need some direct action to happen.

If they think so little of non-Syrians, how on earth will they become valuable citizens of Europe? This is the attitude that prevails in many Pakistani communities such as Rochdale and Rotherham. The last thing this country needs is more men like that.

AMouseLivedinaWindMill · 20/03/2016 17:59

Agree Indigo - its disgusting why do they not even mention it ( corybn, abbot)

I am sorry but I simply do not trust them.

They would throw anyone under the bus, for their cause. I dislike all extreme views. Be they far right or just as bad far left.

unlucky83 · 20/03/2016 18:17

In Eygpt women who are 'conservatively dressed' have been subject to these types of mass sexual assaults - it seems it is about curtailing the freedom of movement of women full stop.
However I agree it would put some of the far left/socialist worker types in a quandary if similar happened (by MENA men) to a woman in a hijab - or niqab or burqa in the EU....

(Am I wrong to suspect that they probably would still not defend the woman above their political agendas?)

By all accounts it does not protect refugee women (who may well be dressed similarly) from rape and sexual assault in the camps/hostels anyway...

AMouseLivedinaWindMill · 20/03/2016 19:16

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3501274/Western-Governments-KNEW-whereabouts-girls-kidnapped-Boko-Haram.html

the girls are still missing, it was considered to risky to get them, even though they knew where they were.

MariscallRoad · 20/03/2016 21:12

www.ekathimerini.com/207157/article/ekathimerini/news/rising-migrant-tension-prompts-more-security
“What worries us most is that the confrontations may take place along ethnic lines,”

sportinguista · 21/03/2016 12:20

Just as an aside. Novak Djokovic has launched his own assault on women's rights. Apparently women tennis players should not get equal prize money to men. Why? Because they don't have as many spectators. I know it's not in the same league as attacks but it demonstrates how we have to stand up for our rights even against European men. Further erosion will just make things like this far worse. We need to campaign on all levels as it seems our rights are being put last at every turn. Why?

WeMustSurelyBeLearning · 21/03/2016 16:40

Sporting, what an arsehole Djokovic is Angry Why does he care what women are being paid? He is getting millions himself. Obviously the thought of a lowly woman getting the same as an amazing and superior man like himself pisses him off

Moreshabbythanchic · 21/03/2016 17:31

Some people still think its the right thing to take in all migrants to the UK, I disagree.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502900/Seven-year-old-girl-gang-raped-asylum-centre-Germany-five-Arabic-men-investigated.html

Indigofactory · 21/03/2016 17:36

Some people still think its the right thing to take in all migrants to the UK, I disagree.

Goodness, so do I.

My professional career was heavily involved in vetting various groups and individuals.

It would turn your hair grey knowing the kinds of things people will say or do to achieve certain things they've set their hearts on, be that a job, a relationship, a country to live in.

It is not such a pressing emergency that we cannot take the time to vet claims in an orderly fashion. There are no mammoths or hordes chasing the claimants; they are safe in Europe and being given shelter, clothing and food.

Clamouring and creating chaos achieves absolutely nothing.

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Moreshabbythanchic · 21/03/2016 17:42

Its all a great big mess, we just don't know who or what these people are but what we do know is that some of them are not refugees and some of them are not fit to live amongst decent people.

AgainstTheGlock · 21/03/2016 17:43

Horrific. :( Disgusting animals.

HelpfulChap · 21/03/2016 18:08

When a religion sees their own women as property and any female not of the same faith as fair game for sexual assault we have to come to the conclusion it is not compatible with our culture.

A religion that stones rape victims to death for adultery is beyond barbaric and completely indefensible surely?

The rights of women, gays and other religious minorities are being set back decades in order to appear to be doing the right thing.

When women in parts of Western Europe are, to all intents and purposes, under curfew the govts of those nations have to say enough is enough!

If we dont make a stand now it will be too late.

MariscallRoad · 21/03/2016 18:37

More this is horror thing.

Hourchange · 21/03/2016 19:36

What a revolting catalogue of incidents in that article Mariscal. Pandora's box has been opened now it seems. It would be interesting to hear from some Muslim women on their take on the situation if there are any Muslim readers of this thread?

Moreshabbythanchic · 21/03/2016 19:52

Mariscall, everyone is fair game to them, women, little girls, boys, even old women. No one is safe from them.

Hourchange · 21/03/2016 20:24

Unfortunately these migrants had been cast as heroic figures by the media. Scenes of them wading from the sea onto the beaches holding small children aloft. The hysteria that was whipped up by the media with regards to the thousands of migrants was shameful - at a time when a cool head and proper consideration of the consequences of inviting anyone and everyone to Europe was paramount.

It was a terrible betrayal of European people to allow these migrants to march at will through country after country and Angela Merkel should be brought to account for issuing an invitation that will have such a far reaching impact on women, girls, gay people, Jewish people, the list goes on and on.

I fear history will view Mrs Merkel as the second most infamous German chancellor.

Eustace2016 · 21/03/2016 21:03

12% of people in London are Muslim although not all of those are necessarily particularly religious and not all will be anti feminist and anti gay rights. Even so we need to be vigilant and not accept that we have to change our behaviour because of newcomers but instead require the newcomers to control their own behaviour. The Trojan horses/muslim take overs of schools and some local councils and an import of endemic corruption and bribery which is common abroad and vote riggings are areas we need to watch very closely particularly if state schools in majoriy muslim areas treat female staff badly, don't promote them etc. In those case we should replace all the governors and the senior teachers and head with perhaps white feminist women to ensure that in school the children learn about the home culture. If they want to learn about religion their parents can teach them at weekends.

AgainstTheGlock · 21/03/2016 22:24

There was also the gang rape of a 3 year old girl in an asylum centre in Sweden and another one of a boy.

Fucking savages.

sportinguista · 22/03/2016 05:50

Not sure about the schools thing Eustace, my DS goes to a school where the majority of the kids are Pakistani descent so therefore Muslim. The majority of the teachers including the deputy head are female and I don't think the parents give them any bother or I've not seen it. There are very few Muslim teachers on staff and none that are male, one or two TA's that I can recall. I don't think that a Trojan horse situation could happen at the school because the team of governors is also mixed. I think that won't be allowed to happen anyway. It might be worse in areas like Bradford where there are bigger majorities, again I don't know as I only know this school.

Around here it's mixed, everything from full niqab to skinny jeans and a light headscarf/ no scarf. I for one would hate to see women stop to have a choice about what they wear.

I can't comment further on the attacks above as whatever I seem to put, however carefully phrased seems to meet with a deletion. I will just say I am horrified by any human being that suffers at the hands of another. And I would be horrified if it was seen as a social norm for those things to happen.