Sarah Palin and Donald Trump

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What a pair. Her endorsement speech yesterday was just bonkers - words just fail me when it comes to Donald Trump.

Is this the best America has to offer?

I think we are in this predicament because we have all been ripped off by a servant class to the super rich elites. There is nothing wrong with free healthcare. Remember it is not really free because we all pay for it out of our taxes. But it is where the rest of out tax money goes that is the important question.

We all want to pay for doctors and nurses, but not many of us want to pay for free bath plugs, moats and subsidised alcohol for a class of servants who want to ban Donald J Trump, the only person who has got his head screwed on, calls a puppet a puppet, and is going to sort things out.

Bernie Sanders has a brother (Larry) who is a British academic.

Left the US in 1969 and recently stood as a Green party candidate in Oxford.

The Guardian article says that Bernie regards Larry as a kind of mentor.

"Bernie Sanders credited his brother as a large influence on his politics .......

“I owe my brother an enormous amount. I grew up in a family that did not have a lot of money. My dad came to this country at the age of 17, dropped out of high school, never made any money. My mother graduated high school. We did not have a lot of books in the house, and it was my brother who actually introduced me to a lot of my ideas, .........”

Interesting.

Yes, I have seen his brother interviewed on Sky or the BBC. He is a very nice guy. He says that Bernie can make it to be President because the media has underestimated the American public and that Bernie won and held his seat as a Senator when the media kept saying that he wouldn't make it.

I doubt that Bernie can really go all the way because of the hugely powerful elite forces he will need to take on and that will require lots of money.

Obama and Hillary had Wall Street money. I don't think Wall Street will back Bernie.

for a class of servants who want to ban Donald J Trump

Nice try, but not many of the HoC spoke in favour of banning Trump in the debate.

Pretty much everything you say about Trump is the opposite of the truth.

'Pretty much everything you say about Trump is the opposite of the truth.'

Can you show me one untruth?

It is the end of political correctness, the return of liberty and truth.

For the exploitative Trump elite only - Trump and his ilk shaft us ordinary folk just as much (probably more) as EU plutocrats.

This is going to be an amazing year. Can the elite stop Trump or will he deliver the people's revolution?

The people's revolution? No-one can seriously think Trump's revolution would benefit anyone except the extremely weathly elite he's part of. It's the same trick as Cameron, Thatcher et all - call it freedom and aspiration and rely on people who think Only Fools and Horses is a documentary and everyone could be Trump/SrAlan if they just work a bit harder, for a bit less.

Well here's just one example of utter, utter, utter bollocks

I heard it from Trump's mouth and he is not known for exaggeration or untruths.

'Nice try, but not many of the HoC spoke in favour of banning Trump in the debate. '

True. The debate started at about 16.30 which is probably past the end of most of their working days. They were most probably in a reclining position in a House of Commons bar, stone drunk uder a table or chair, after an excess of subsidised alcohol from a heavy drinking session which began at 3 pm sharp.

'I heard it from Trump's mouth and he is not known for exaggeration or untruths.'

That was a joke.

'Trump and his ilk shaft us ordinary folk just as much (probably more) as EU plutocrats.'

Unemployment in the EU is at record levels. Austerity and economic slowdown is everywhere and in Greece and Spain, youth unemployment is above 30%.

Trump is going to bring jobs back to America, impose tariffs on companies who move out of the USA to go to cheaper labour destinations abroad and says he will be "the biggest job creator in US history". It is the working classes who most strongly back Trump. The EU plutocrats, the servant class and assorted puppets are all against him.

'No-one can seriously think Trump's revolution would benefit anyone except the extremely weathly elite he's part of'

Then why are the wealthy Republican elite donor class doing their utmost to stop Trump and why is his support highest among working class Americans?

'It's the same trick as Cameron, Thatcher et all - call it freedom and aspiration'

Please don't compare Cameron to Trump. Cameron is a moderniser, the total opposite of Trump.

Cameron is a "career politician", Trump hates even calling himself a "politician".

There will be no kumbayas with the European political class when Trump gets in. They will be summoned to the White House and will be told what the new game plan is. That is why the Guardian and all the in-crowd newspapers of the metropolitan elite are saying that "Trump and Palin are no joke", because not one of the EU plutocrats and European political class is laughing. They know the game is up.

Trump is going to bring jobs back to America, impose tariffs on companies who move out of the USA to go to cheaper labour destinations abroad and says he will be "the biggest job creator in US history".

Just, how?

If he imposes these tariffs, then they'll just create separate companies abroad to supply the US companies.

The president has very little impact in the economy unless it's backed by Congress and Senate.
Which he may not be if he goes so much against the establishment as he is supposed to.
He'd have to play the game just like any other politician who reaches power and doesn't have absolute power.

They will be summoned to the White House and will be told what the new game plan is.
Except he's not dealing with one country at a time, but with the EU.

That was a joke.

You've used this before. I think we should all treat whatever you say as a joke and ignore it, or read it to mean the complete opposite. There's no telling what you'll later say it's a joke or not.

Will read the responses later but - of course there's nothing wrong with free health care, education, social security, disability benefits, old age pensions. That's exactly as it should be. It''s a fantastic system for the citizens. However, it's a system that has to be paid for - was it Emily Thornberry who uttered the words 'there is a money tree' in an interview? I can't remember but somebody actually said that. Also, it's a system that can't work when other systems are not the same, i.e., when other countries adopt different models. Socialism + nationalism? I don't know, but we are clearly increasingly struggling.

'Just, how? '

I don't know how, I am not a politician. Trump says he will put New York's and America's best brains in chgarge of trade deals. His mate Carl Icahn will be sorting out trade with China. Trump says there will be no more "political hacks" ad friends of the Establishment who are unqualified in business but are just there because of favours and who they know.

Trump will change laws in America. The finest legal minds will be on the case. He will get it done. How, I don't know, but he is not running to mess around or get backhanders for his foundation or charidee. He is running to fix America and help the American people.

'The president has very little impact in the economy unless it's backed by Congress and Senate. '

Yes and at the moment the Republicans have the majority. The Republican elite will have to fall in line with Trump and work with him.

'Which he may not be if he goes so much against the establishment as he is supposed to. '

I think he will end up being so popular and we already know how unpopular they are with the Republican base, that they will have to go along with Trump.

'He'd have to play the game just like any other politician who reaches power and doesn't have absolute power.'

I agree. But that is his great skill, he is a dealmaker, he gets on with people (unlike Cruz) and he will get the job done by compromise. But as we have seen throughout this campaign, Trump is tough as nails and no one will get the better of him. He is ruthless in his aim to serve the American people and no puppet politician will be able to stop him.

'They will be summoned to the White House and will be told what the new game plan is.
Except he's not dealing with one country at a time, but with the EU.'

Yes, but don't kid yourself. The US is far more powerful than the EU. The EU is going through turmoil at the moment. Crises can still occur financially etc. America is strong enough to get through especially with good leadership. The EU may not even survive another 5 years.

It's still a far cry from being summoned and being told what to do.
There are big players these days, including economically. It's naive to say the US president can just summon any other nation.

Trump will change laws in America. The finest legal minds will be on the case. He will get it done. How, I don't know,

Maybe you should start to think about it and if it's even possible.
He can devise the best ever laws but has to make them into law and the President simply can't do it without backing.

'It's still a far cry from being summoned and being told what to do. '

Read the Guardian and the FT. That is the elite speaking. Most of them are petrified of a Trump victory. They know what it means. It means the game is up and the USA is back. Trump is ther worst nightmare and Palin with him is beyond their wildest nightmare.

'It's naive to say the US president can just summon any other nation.'

I don't think it is. America is the only superpower in the world. Puppets across the globe know that. Trump has signalled to the American people and to every puppet on the planet that he will be tough and that the game is over. He has said that America is "getting ripped" by countries across the planet and all that is going to end. Jobs will return to America, the 500 billion trade deficit of the US with China will be slashed, countries will have to start paying a lot more money for American protection, and then there are the new deals that Trump will make with countries that will favour America.

It is a new world and a great shock to the existing elites. They never saw it coming, they were convinced Trump was a joke, but the Guardian's finest are writing articles that "Trump and Palin may be funny, but they are no joke".

He is ruthless in his aim to serve the American people

Is he?
According to this he's put 4 million dollars into his own charitable foundation.

newsexaminer.net/politics/donald-trump-the-least-charitable-billionaire/
I bet his home is about 10 x more expensive.
Where's the job creation work he does that it's not for profit only?

He's suddenly decided to present this image that it's pure demagogy and propaganda.
There's nothing to back it up.

The existing elite are the kumbaya hands aloft lot who want global governance. Read the Guardian and the FT and you can see that they call Trump a "nativist". They are scared stiff of that because that is the end of their kumbaya. What it means is that America is no longer playing ball and will be independent of them and put America first. Trump's motto is "make America great again", not "make the elite great again". He is challenging everything they have worked for for over 60 years. He says "global warming is bullshit". Can you imagine the panic among the kumabays at the Paris COP. America is standing up for America, not joining in the kumbaya anymore.

Most people are worried because he's a lose cannon. As is Sarah, in addition to being ignorant.

And there's nothing worse than thinking you know something when you don't.

'Where's the job creation work he does that it's not for profit only? '

He's a businessman, he believes in profit and capitalism. He will put America back to work because he believes in America first and not global governance first. He is the elite's worst nightmare.

'He's suddenly decided to present this image that it's pure demagogy and propaganda.
There's nothing to back it up.'

He doesn't have to back it up. It is enough to scare the bejeezus out of the Guardian and FT journalists. Trump's team will find a way to deliver. He will "get the job done". He doesn't need to spell out how he will do it, the voters just want it done.

He doesn't need to spell out how he will do it, the voters just want it done.

In that I'm afraid you're right. Most Americans are probably prepared to believe any bollocks that is presented as the truth by demagogues.

The same who believe in creationism.
Sadly, it will backfire spectacularly if he's elected.