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Sarah Palin and Donald Trump

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shebird · 21/01/2016 16:57

What a pair. Her endorsement speech yesterday was just bonkers - words just fail me when it comes to Donald Trump.

Is this the best America has to offer?

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claig · 27/01/2016 20:14

Here we go. The elite strikes back. The Financial Times speaks

"The economic losers are in revolt against the elites.
Nativist populists must not win."

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/135385ca-c399-11e5-808f-8231cd71622e.html#axzz3yTdpjI6H

The elites are all against Trump. He is their worst nightmare.

DoctorTwo · 27/01/2016 20:18

Sanders, not Trump, is the person who will reform the US. Trump will reduce taxes for the rich and regulations for corporations. Sanders will do the opposite, which is why the corporations are all backing Hillary and the people are backing Bernie. He has a bigger grass roots following than O'Bama. And the Irish guy won.

claig · 27/01/2016 20:41

DoctorTwo, there are lots of factions in power. One person, Obama, Trump or Sanders, is not in full charge. They all need support from hidden factions and backers. Sanders will end up being controlled because the factions won't support him unless he does as he is told. You need nerves of steel and backing to really take charge. Very few people have guts like that. Look at Corbyn and McDonnell, it is amateur hour and the stooges in their own party run rings around them for the real bosses.

Trump is the only one who has the level of courage to take them on and who has backing from some factions. That is why Davos is in panic over Trump, the Financial Times says that "nativist populists must be stopped" and every puppet on the planet who believes in global warming is desperate to stop Trump.

claig · 27/01/2016 20:49

Sorry, "native populists must not win" rather than "must be stopped".

ChipsandGuac · 27/01/2016 21:23

I saw my second ever Trump bumper sticker today. I preferred it to the 1st, even if it doesn't really make sense.

Sarah Palin and Donald Trump
Lweji · 27/01/2016 22:03

Are they calling Trump supporters idiots?
Or suggesting it as a synonym?

DoctorTwo · 28/01/2016 05:48

Trump is the only one who has the level of courage to take them on

He hasn't even got the bottle to take on Megyn Kelly. At least Nigel 'UK' Garridge doesn't dodge debates invigilated by people he hates and despises.

Trump will not break up the 'too big to fail' banks; Sanders will.
Trump will not curb the corporates; Sanders will.

If Trump wins the nomination the Democrats could put up a turd on a stick and it would win.

claig · 28/01/2016 11:17

Very good analysis by America's number one conservative talk show host about why Trump has skipped Fox's debate. He is controlling "the game", controlling the media, running rings around the Establishment and tearing up their rules. He is above them and that is why Trump fans cheer him on.

The entire world's political class is looking on in panic. Bureaucrats and politically correct busybodies are worried that Trump is changing the rules of "the game". Whether you like Trump or not, you have to be amazed at how he has managed to tear through the Establishment's system and control their game.

The next generation of the political class across the world, currently being trained at Oxford, Harvard, the College of Europe, in top law schools etc etc will probably be being told right now to throw away their recommended reading lists and instead buy Trump's book "The Art of the Deal". That is the only book they need to read to understand what their future holds. Professors are probably telling the eager new recruits to the political class that political correctness is over, the game is up and there is no longer any point in reading through dross like Tony Blair's autobiography - The Journeyman.

At Oxford colleges, reports are that the only book students are seen carrying under their arms is Trump's "The Art of the Deal" and that the Bodleain Library is being inundated with requests for anything Trump.

It's good news for the people. It's Trump 2016!

Mistigri · 28/01/2016 14:12

If Trump is not a member of the "elite" I'd like to know who is. He's a billionaire who inherited his fortune. You can't get more "global elite" ffs. His supporters are frankly deluded, though in their defence the alternatives are only marginally more attractive (except possibly Sanders, but he has a snowball's chance in hell of being nominated).

GruntledOne · 28/01/2016 14:50

Obviously Trump fans like to believe the spin that he's avoiding debate because he's controlling the media etc etc. So what? It's equally obvious that he's not going to admit the real reason why he's avoiding it, but anyone with half a brain can work it out.

At Oxford colleges, reports are that the only book students are seen carrying under their arms is Trump's "The Art of the Deal" and that the Bodleain Library is being inundated with requests for anything Trump.

I can confirm that both reports are untrue.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:07

'I can confirm that both reports are untrue.'

Thank you for clearing up those reports, GruntledOne.

Some other reports I have been hearing on the grapevine (as I drink a glass of juice of the grape) is that professors are worried that their lecture halls will be empty tomorrow morning because the Student Union is holding live video streaming parties of Trump's alternative rally to the official Reublican debate which airs in the eraly hour of the morning and the entire student body is expected to attend. Am I right that "Make America Great Again" baseball caps are on sale in the canteens and shops on campus and that nearly the entire student body are wearing them? Is it also true that the young generation of the Bullingdon Club, the next generation, are the only ones who will be tuned into the Establishment Republican debate and are the only students not stumping for Trump?

shebird · 28/01/2016 15:13

Claig
Can you tell us a bit about yourself and how you came to be such an avid Trump supporter? I am interested in the demographic of Trump fanatics?

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claig · 28/01/2016 15:17

I am middle-aged, mother of two, former Conservative voter, then UKIP because I have had enough of political correctness and now Trump because he is not politically correct.

The biggest issue driving Trump support is opposition to political correctness. It is not conservatism, because some of his policies are not conservative like Ted Cruz.

GruntledOne · 28/01/2016 15:24

Frankly, claig, all those reports about Oxford are absolute rubbish.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:24

I'm also middle class and the middle class and the squeezed middle are being squeezed by the metropolitan elites and I have had enough of that too. Trump is for the middle class and Middle America.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:26

Thank you, GruntledOne. I did get my reports from someone in top hat and tails, who looked like a member of the Bullingdon Club, so I am not surprised that they were not true.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:39

Political incorrectness is the key issue which explains why Trump Fans love Trump. If Trump wins, then political correctness is finished because political classes all over the world follow the lead of the United States.

Why Trump may be winning the war on ‘political correctness’

Cathy Cuthbertson once worked at what might be thought of as a command post of political correctness — the campus of a prestigious liberal arts college in Ohio.

“You know, I couldn’t say ‘Merry Christmas.’ And when we wrote things, we couldn’t even say ‘he’ or ‘she,’ because we had transgender. People of color. I mean, we had to watch every word that came out of our mouth, because we were afraid of offending someone, but nobody’s afraid of offending me,” the former administrator said.

All of which helps explain why the 63-year-old grandmother showed up at a recent Donald Trump rally in Hilton Head Island, S.C., where she moved when she retired a year ago.

The Republican front-runner is “saying what a lot of Americans are thinking but are afraid to say because they don’t think that it’s politically correct,” she said. “But we’re tired of just standing back and letting everyone else dictate what we’re supposed to think and do.”

In the 2016 Republican presidential primary season, “political correctness” has become the all-purpose enemy"

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-trump-may-be-winning-the-war-on-political-correctness/2016/01/04/098cf832-afda-11e5-b711-1998289ffcea_story.html

That is why Trump will win. He is the only perosn not afraid to be politically incorrect, and that is because he is a billionaire and is not scared of the media or political class and is in fact above them.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:53

Republican Presidential candidate Carly Fiorina on Fox just now said

"we have to take our country back from the elite, the Establishment, the media"

All real conservatives are against political correctness because it will destroy our freedoms. America is one of the last countries left with real conservatives who can beat political correctness. If America loses that battle, then we wil lose here because our metropolitan elites are all politically correct.

Notmyname123 · 28/01/2016 15:55

If Trump wins, then political correctness is finished because political classes all over the world follow the lead of the United States

The world is certainly not going to follow that lead. But it's academic anyway, as Trump isn't going to win.

claig · 28/01/2016 15:59

'The world is certainly not going to follow that lead'

I think they will because most politicians are puppets and they will rightly feel privileged to be invited to the White House and meet the President of the United States and they won't be criticising Trump's political incorrectness or calling Trump a "wazzock" anymore once Trump gets in.

Lweji · 28/01/2016 17:44

Why do you dislike political correctness so much?

claig · 28/01/2016 18:03

'Why do you dislike political correctness so much?'

Because it removes freedom and free speech one step at a time. It silences the silent majority. It is not about racism as the politically correct classes pretend, it is about removing the ability to disagree with the metropolitan elites. It affects every aspect of society and policy - global warming, the EU, minimum alcohol pricing and now even feminism where lifelong feminsit campaigners like Julie Bindel and Germaine Greer are banned from some universities in case they offend someone by exercising free speech.

That is why I love America and love Donald Trump. America is the freeset country on the planet, people can say what they like guaranteed by the First Amendment. A free people will always solve any problem in the end, because wisdom is not the preserve of the metropolitan elite, common sense wisdom of the common people is where real wisdom lies.

Donald Trump is driving a coach and horses through political correctness because he is not beholden to the media or the political class. They can't stop Trump saying whatever he likes and that is why they want him to lose and why the people want him to win.

If Donald Trump wins in America, the whole world will change which is why the Financial Times has the article

"The economic losers are in revolt against the elites.
Nativist populists must not win."

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/135385ca-c399-11e5-808f-8231cd71622e.html#axzz3yTdpjI6H

It is the people vs the elites, freedom vs political correctness, Trump vs Fox.

CNN will show Trump's rally tonight and 83% of Greta van Susterens' Fox audience said they would not watch the Fox Republican debate.

Trump is mocking the elites, bringing Jeb Bush down to size, he hasn't even started on Hillary yet (and it won't be politically correct i.e. it will be the truth), and he is taking on the media, and he is doing it for the people.

claig · 28/01/2016 18:08

The Rotherham rapes and abuse was covered up by the media and authorities due to politically correct concerns, the media tried to not cover the truth of what happened in Cologne because it might not be politically correct.

Political correctness is too often about hiding the truth for the benefit of the elites and not the people.

Trump is with the people and doesn't give a fig about the elites. He is their worst nightmare.

Lweji · 28/01/2016 18:57

If only you could write a post without the cliches that you have repeated ad nauseum.

How hard can it be, I wonder?

claig · 28/01/2016 19:49

Impossible. I'm not politically correct, that's why I stump for Trump!