Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part VII

[januarybrown1998]

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The events of NYE were shocking enough; the subsequent minimising and under-reporting were an affront to women's rights to equality across Europe.

It's a testament to the tenacity and commitment of this community that we are at thread VII; do join the discussion and feel free to share the links and letters to anyone you think may wish to be part of this important debate.

We are currently awaiting the approval of a petition to parliament.

Shortly we will post links for those who want to take a proactive part in safeguarding the rights of all UK women to live in freedom from the fear of mass sexual assault as we sadly saw in NYE and reports of which are finally seeing daylight across Europe.

Out of curiosity I took a look at the Economist wiki page. "It takes an editorial stance of classical and economic liberalism which is supportive of free trade, globalisation, free immigration and cultural liberalism..."

So no wonder they are struggling a tad when the free immigration bit and the cultural liberalism bit clash.

On the establishment economic view : I don't even fully believe the IMF's Christine Lagarde's claims on GDP. And that's before you start thinking about GDP per capita.

Mariscal is watching the petition!

Meant to add thanks to everyone for posting links. Reading with interest. It's good that words are being generated despite authorities' attempts at cover up and obfuscation.

Well said Veronica.

Veronica, thanks for your post. I think it's a form of bullying too: some threads back, I likened it to the child in the playground who winds someone up verbally, over and over and over again, and then goes crying to teacher when the bullied one finally slings out a punch.

The thing, the individual things said are rarely bad enough to merit deletion (just as in the playground example, if the bullied child runs to the staff to say 'But she said XYZ, miss', they'll be told it's nothing, it doesn't matter, just ignore it). Not answering a direct question (after spouting off about a topic) is permitted behaviour, and has been particularly infuriating.

Those of us who are discussing this topic are trying to stop a sensitive issue becoming a political football for racists and xenophobes - and are being accused of being racists and xenophobes ourselves. It's rather like feminists being called man-haters and having to do that NAMALT thing (only here the M has to stand for Muslims rather than men).

The notion that you can appreciate and love your own (European) culture and not want unlimited immigration and NOT be a frothing racist xenophobic black-hearted loon is quite clearly beyond some people.

Appalled at the stabbing

Thanks Sonya! The links have been enlightening, paleblue. That NY Times sums it up - Sweden finally admits 'we have our limits and we have reached them'. It all comes back to the sheer weight of people wanting to come here. We cannot house all the world in Europe.

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TheNewStatesman I understand The Economist has to write an article or something like an editorial at least. When I read more sources I will post links. Many journals allow free reading up to a limit.

Thanks for the wiki info, ItsjustaUsername.
Yes, the MN moderator has been applying rules to “the provoked” instead of to the provokers for reasons known only to herself. Lumela has got it in one! When I was moderating, this passive-aggressive shit did not get past me.
As Sherlock Holmes said: “If you’ve eliminated all other possibilities whatever remains must be the truth,”

Palebluedotty that is true and many economists in a broad spectrum of economics do write articles in that journal. One can send letter to the editor as well. Some of those are published. The journal publishes sometimes a Supplement compiled by experts and devoted on a single topic so I d like to find if there has been anything on the current issues.

There was this www.economist.com/news/special-report/21647791-every-big-party-wants-much-less-immigration-raise-drawbridge If you have not reached your free article limit you can read it. I ve reached my free limit and don't have access to it.

The Economist has, for at least 5 years been following a liberal skippy eutopia-for-all editorial flavour with little based upon hard facts on the ground.

For similar reasons I expect this is why MNHQ are so cautious wrt intervention here - it does not fit the persuasion of the "mn movement" nor its owners/husband.

Reports coming out of Freiburg now... and yet more police cover up. :(

Actually I'll retract that. I do not believe that police officers themselves wish to cover this stuff up, rather than their orders come from above and are of a political persuasion.

On IMF
Here is how IMF admitted mistakes in handling Greece's debt
crisis:
www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jun/05/imf-admit-mistakes-greek-crisis-austerity
And here too on Wall Street Journal, the same:
www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014241278873242991045785272027816670

I have tried to post an article I have read today (but failed )
For anyone who is interested look up Gatestone Institute , there is many very good articles in their archive . Look at Scent of Cologne , posted today it covers many of the topics on this thread
Ps I have sign petition and posted on FB

Southernstar's article:

www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7285/scent-of-cologne

I know that this is RT (but right now, all news sources are up there with the rest of them) - truly shocking:

www.rt.com/news/330180-police-violent-refugees-sweden/#.VqeSB8Vdrtg.twitter

Thankyou dog123.

Veronica, welcome. Your observations were very interesting. Would you be happy to share them with moderators on this forum?

Luckily we are all confident enough to know that there is no hidden racist agenda here and I believe the discussions of cultural dissonance have been conducted (with obvious exceptions) with intelligence, sensitivity, honesty and the desire to listen, learn and adjust our thinking where necessary.

Certainly, I know several posters and readers who have been astonished to realise just how much the media are spinning the whole issue.

My MP has replied (by post, how charmingly old-fashioned on lovely HOC paper):

The news of sexual assaults around Erope are deeply distressing. My strong belief is that sexual assaults should never be suppressed (sic), and the law applies to everyone regardless of one's country of origin.The issue of cover-ups are (sic) are not specific to British media, but that does not make it less problematic. Media's lack of reporting could be well-meant measures of anti-racism but (as you write) it should not be tolerated, and it is proof of a society where 'political correctness' is taken too far. It worries me as well when media do not scrutinise and the olive cannot guarantee women's safety. I cannot promise you a PMQT, but I will continue to follow this issue closely.

I will reply and ask that they sign the Early Day Motion at least.

What chance do we stand if even the police are running away from them.

January my MP also replied in the same manner, wonder if he's the same one, I'm sure it will puzzle my postman!

Fourmummy that linked article says that the fleeing police had gone there in the first place "to relocate a 10-year-old boy after reports of his repeated rape"

A ten year old boy?? I really, really hope that isn't true ...

january

Good response.

(I did have a giggle at 'the olive cannot guarantee women's safety'. )

paleblue fabulous! Hands up, that was MY typo, was far too busy trying not to be snotty about the grammar.

Hoist by my own petard.

Olives! I will remember this next time I have a Martini.

Which, after a depressing read of 'racist Mornington Crescent' round MN, with the usual predictable polarised bullying and bugger-all listening (nice try, Bungo), might be in about eight minutes time!

Anyone got nice crisps?

Would you be happy to share them with moderators on this forum?
I am hoping, January that the moderators will have picked up on my posting. It is for them to attend to this and explain why a small group of posters have been given a free pass. Imo they have broken forum rules several times over, i.e. working in tandem, adopting a style designed to provoke and of course the obnoxious faux outrage.

There does not need to be swear words for example, for forum rules to be breached. If mods are looking out just for that, then that is hardly moderating.