Daniel Pelka's mother has died in jail

[mrsdavidbowie]

Well no loss there.

[morethanpotatoprints]

Okay, just before I leave this thread as really not more to add, I was not making a comparison in the level of dispicable.
You can have different levels of the same emotion you know, we aren't all robots.
We all have our opinion and many differ, that is fine and makes for an interesting thread.
I found some of the comments dispicable because that is my opinion. I also think that murder and abuse are dispicable at a far higher level.
I hope that clears that up for those looking for a fight.
Off to finish my garden now.

[Back2Two]

personally I don't believe that people are born bad.
They are parented and treated in such a way that forms their personality (and personality disorders) ...their brains are wired through experience and nurturing (or lack of)

She may have been a horrible and evil woman but where did her teaching come from.

She should RIP as he should.

Her other children have the possibility of a brighter future despite this horrible legacy.

[TendonQueen]

My response, MrsDV, was - good. No competition there. But you read into it what you want.

[PyjamasLlamas]

I suppose that was directed at me MrsDV. I am not in a competition to prove anything. I've never posted on any child abuse threads before or told a story.
I'm not sure why it's so bad that people feel affected by these things. After all we are affected by all kinds of things. After every terrorist attack there are scores of thread with people commenting on their horror their distress their feelings about it all. I was just giving an account of how I felt. Honestly not trying to be salacious. In fact I've hardly commented on her death at all.

[PyjamasLlamas]

I've read threads where someone said they cried seeing a cat run over. Not sure why it's so wrong to say that hearing a story about child a use made you cry. Does it really make someone a bad person??

[Baddz]

I am afraid the only sympathy I can summon up is for her poor, dead son.

[mrschatty]

It's such a sad sad tale from start to end- what made this woman do these horrible things to her child- was she herself a victim who was so damaged she knew no better? Well never know- it's a terrible terrible thing that she did to her beautiful baby boy.
Poor little mite never stood a chance. And now she adds to the misery turmoil and maybe shame felt by her surviving kids. So so sad. I feel so sorry for the whole awful situation. Devistating

[Mintyy]

I can't imagine many will mourn her passing.

[IhateMagic]

Yes maryz, I did laugh, i also went on to hope she suffered and was scared and hopefully it was long and painful. Her death is not a fucking tragedy, it's a good thing. She tortured a child. Tortured. A. Child.
No shits given here about her fucking sob story.

[MaggieJoyBlunt]

Ihate why do you think the two choices are "giving a shit about a sob story" and laughing?

[Fromparistoberlin73]

I am neither pleased not displeased

I do think it's worth noting her death though - his tragic story haunted so so many of us. I remember weeping when they were sentenced .

I think his death (hope!) has not been in vain as so many lessons have been learned - I so hope so.

I always wondered how she would fare in prison - guess I have my answer now

[IhateMagic]

I don't think there are only two options. But honestly, the posters saying its a tragedy!? That she should rest in peace!!? Are they honestly for real? A child murderer, who caused such horrific pain and suffering should rest peacefully after what she did? No.

[ConstanceBlackwood]

I won't give a thought for her. I certainly can't pretend to care about her or her motivation for torturing and murdering her child.My thoughts are for her children.

[Spartans]

I am with the neither happy or sad people on this thrwad. When I saw it I read it, didn't feel anything. Apart from the same sick and overwhelming sadness I felt during their trial. Not for them for Daniel and the fact that this happened and no one did anything.

I think the same now as I did then which is sadness for that poor boy. The mother doesn't deserve any emotion.

[ZetaPu]

I just wonder if she regretted what she did. I can't imagine what makes people do the things she and her partner did but do they ever realise what they've done? Or are they so messed up that it doesn't affect their conscience.
I hope she was sorry but who knows.

[Sigma33]

I have a friend with 2 adopted DDs. Their feelings about their birth mother are incredibly complicated - despite what they experienced, they still love her, she is still who they came from. Her death last year was devastating, as the older DD especially wanted to meet her and ask questions (not only the 'why'?, but also questions about her earliest life that only her birth mother could have answered) and express her anger about what had happened. The older DD has even more sadness and anger now, as BM's chaotic and addicted lifestyle contributed to her early death.

What she did was horrendous, and she got the punishment that society has chosen as the 'least worst' option - given nothing can undo what she did. Perhaps she felt guilt and remorse, perhaps she didn't.

Let s/he who is without sin cast the first stone. There are no 'winners' with her death.

[MaggieJoyBlunt]

But honestly, the posters saying its a tragedy!? That she should rest in peace!!? Are they honestly for real?

Where??

[Fromparistoberlin73]

I bet she regretted it, IMHO she was a weak and shit mother who unfortunately got together with a bullying psychopath and basically sat back and enabled and allowed his vicious behaviour

my primary upset is more how he fell through the net. I read a story that said HIS VOICE WAS NEVER HEARD- seriously as he was so small and scared , barely spoke English and no one ever fucking spoke to him. that breaks my heart. It also taught me we should and MUST be sticky beaks when we see stuff

Oh so preventable - it fucking breaks my heart

ah its bought it all up again

[blowinahoolie]

"I hope she was sorry but who knows."

I think she felt her sentence of 30 years was 'excessive' from what I've read and her boyfriend also tried to appeal their conviction? Correct me if I'm wrong, someone...that tells you enough about the level or remorse either of them felt.

[HeisenbergSaysHello]

Neither of them took responsibility for what they had done, both pointed fingers at each other. Despicable pair of cunts

[TheOldMonkey]

Strange how it was perfectly acceptable for posters to celebrate the death of Margaret Thatcher who was just doing her job but not a sociopath killer who tortured a child .......