Daniel Pelka's mother has died in jail

[mrsdavidbowie]

Well no loss there.

[SylvanianCaliphate]

She didn't have to endure as long as he did, R.I.P. little fella.

[TheDowagerCuntess]

This is news; it's inevitable someone will start a thread on the topic (in the news forum).

And it's a fairly resonant topic for Mumsnet, what with most of us being mothers.

I'm not in the UK, and this didn't make our news. I had to google just now to find out who this woman was, and who Daniel was. It made for pretty shocking reading.

I am going to be honest, and say I am not at all sorry she is dead. And I don't think there is anything wrong with starting this thread in news. It is news, like it or not.

[OttiliaVonBCup]

I'm by far not a softly softy bleeding heart but justice was served.
She got her time and she was serving it.

For me that's how civilisation works.

I can't feel glad someone is dead, we are all someone's child, brother, sister.

[GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt]

PyjamasLlamas, quite. I think the sun has baked some people's brains. I typed one single word. Hardly think that qualifies me, or any other poster on this thread as "as bad as a murderer or an abuser."

[GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt]

Yes, paraphrasing obviously, before I get fucking torn apart for that as well. Christ on a bike.

[AllThatGlistens]

Of course people will comment on current news, that goes without saying. It's the gleeful tone in some posts I find distasteful and unnecessary.

As I said earlier, I have neither sympathy or compassion for her, only sadness for her poor poor children and the legacy left behind.

[NoStannisNo]

Well some posters sound as though they would like to be sticking pins in effigies, or burning them (or her), not to mention lol-ing and laughing gleefully. It's a bit like the crowd at a hanging, isn't it?

Um, no, not really.

[PyjamasLlamas]

Except the majority of people haven't been gleeful. All they have done is respond to a thread in News that they didn't start to say ok yes good I'm glad she's dead as she was a horrible person. That's not gleeful. That's just a personal opinion. Nobody ever said ooh sadam Hussein is dead but let's not say we're happy about it.
You can't shut down people's opinions just because it's not how you feel. It's a forum for opinions. Some of Us are glad someone whintortured their child is dead.
Can't believe the nitpicking over morethan's post. It's very clear what she said.
Some people just love riding in on their high horse and berate everyone for not being as wonderfully open minded as them and feel
More compassion.

[PyjamasLlamas]

The only people being so over the top are the ones who are so desperate to comment on how awful the thread is. It's just so hysterical. No one is laughing gleefully.

[MaggieJoyBlunt]

Um, no, not really.

Ah yes really.

Like a salivating mob.

There hasn't been a thread like this on MN since Rosdeep Kular was arrested for little Mikaeel's murder.

[JugglingFromHereToThere]

Well said Finola. Balance

[PyjamasLlamas]

Ok fine one person laughed gleefully. Is that enough for the totally ridiculous images of effigys and pin sticking.

Ther are at least some people who are trying to acknowledge that even though they themselves do not feel glad about her death they can see how this is an emotive topic for lots of people and can evoke strong responses. Not sure why others can't see thag

[PyjamasLlamas]

I read the story about Mikaeel on a day when DS was unwell. He had been puking and feverish. I had spent the day clearing up sick and giving lots of cuddles in front of the tv. Just like a normal mum.
Then I read how she had beat him against the bathtub over and over because he had been unwell and vomited.
I remember sitting on the floor in my room and just crying and crying at the thought of it.
I'm sorry if you think I'm a bad person (I'm not ) but I am glad that another woman just like that is dead.

[Ubik1]

I don't feel any emotion at all. Her death doesn't remove any of the torment she caused to that little boy.

[NoStannisNo]

Saying 'you know what, I cant bring myself to give a shit that this person has died, in fact I'm kind of glad, the world will hardly be a worse place without her'.

And

Purposefully making a journey to go and watch someone be pubilcally murdered in a horrific way, whilst cheering and chanting.

Yes. Exactly the same

[TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet]

AHEM

[TendonQueen]

George, I went back and reread (as suggested) and then agreed with the post saying they had been written about as equal - and that was the comparison made. Several other posters said similar things. I'm fine with how I feel about it, so don't feel you have to nitpick on my account.

[GeorgeYeatsAutomaticWriter]

So you're retracting the 'more despicable' bit then? Fair enough. Moving on.

[teacoffeesomethingsweet]

All I can think of is RIP little Daniel. Hopefully he's happy, loved and cuddled wherever he is. Stories like that make me really hope that there is something better on the other side.
As for the mother-the first instinct for all of us is to feed and cuddle our children. What when wrong in her life that she felt the need to do the exact opposite. May she rest in peace too.

[clareth]

Not really sure how I feel about the mother dying really.

Just desperately sad that this poor little boy had such a short and traumatic life. I have just read the timeline of events of the intervention of medical people, so unbearably sad that it wasn't picked up and nothing was done to help him :(

RIP Daniel